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Who is the “loco” in “In Loco Parentis” courts, again, this time?
I saw the article. I want to say… loudly …
WHO CARES ANYMORE??
Father, two boys found dead (video)
Who is the “loco” in “In Loco Parentis” courts, again, this time?
March 30, 2009 (WLS) — McLean County authorities say Michael Connolly and his two young sons have been found dead in rural Putnam County.
“Nine-year-old Duncan and 7-year-old Jack were the focus of an Amber Alert issued earlier this month.”
My commentary. 9 yr old and 7 yr old Jack did NOTHING in this case but submit to court-ordered visitation with their already violent father (see restraining order), after which someone killed them and stuffed them in their father’s car. They are (er, WERE), minors. Putting them as the subject of a sentence in this reporting just sounds dishonest. The Subject is grammatically responsible for the action of the verb. In this case, the dramatic “verb” is “were found.” See “The Grammar of Male Violence” (and reporting on it).
Yes, they “were.” They were #1 born. #2 into violent family #3 became the subject of a restraining order, I bet, along with their mother, who they probably witnessed being assaulted by their Dad, or the effects of it. Bad boys. They WERE, obviously, the sons of a woman who complied with court orders, because their Dad got them for that weekend. Bad boys. Next, they WERE kidnapped (in most states this is a felony crime). Then they WERE found, dead.
I’ve taught lots of children of this age range, and by and large, I would not call most of the little boys passive. Typically, they are quite active. Sometimes, I hear, enough so to require Ritalin, etc.
OK, Suppose we don’t know WHO killed them yet. Let’s Get Honest about REPORTING, folks. Maybe after that, something might happen to address the dishonesty of “family court” or “restraining orders” in combination with Visitation, PERIOD.
I am so sick of hearing stories like this. Should I just never read the news again, and hope it’s not my kids?
My kids were stolen on an overnight visitation too. I warned the police too, and not just once. I warned everyone that was involved. That includes police, friends, family members (4 of whom I later learned were endorsing and approving this; there WERE no legal grounds to switch custody suddenly, so the hired thug (my ex) just did it (with help from woman#2) and not in a vacuum. My written documentation of concern about this goes back two years before it happened. My daughter diaried, one year in advance, and left it out plainly, in my own journal, that she’d feel more comfortable if she knew a code language. Stupid me, I focused more on the preventing the event than the developing of such a code language). I placed her in front of counselor experienced in DV, for a safe confidante (as the entire family was already split along the fault line of “but he’s a nice guy?” analogy, primarily). (Nice guys don’t assault pregnant wives, folks. Not repeatedly. The action means you lost the appellation “nice” or should).
FOLKS, IN LOCO PARENTIS IS NUTS! The key to knowing is CARING. More about the life of the children, physical lives, physical safety, than the “rights” of the perpetrator. That is what someone committing violence against an intimate should be called, until the behavior, attitude is changed and reparations made. This almost never happens, so let the name STICK, and stop trying to ice over the cracks in the family cake; it shows through.
I would like to remind the general public of something. We have a serious problem in the Family Courts of the United States. KNOWING is driven by CARING. Pronouncing one cares is not an indicator. LISTENING is.
I have so experienced this I do not know myself anymore, some days. I know that my (absent, FYI), daughters do not know me any more, and the very little I’ve seen them, they are changed, absent the buffering I provided to the shut-down of their lives. There are so many verbal/mental/land mines they (and I, now als0) must avoid that, someone, one is really tempted to adjust personality to accommodate.
I will yell, jump, do circus tricks, if it will make a difference. Speaking in a reasonable tone, complying with all court orders, and telling the truth as a mother’s instinct reported, did not save: Connolly, Castillo, Freeman (Australia), or many many others.
The courts are punishing Moms for caring. THIS is partly now. Damn! !!!
The three-week-old search ended in tragedy about 100 miles south of Chicago.
[As I point out elsewhere on my blog, generic non-person, irrelevant detail nouns take on a life of their own, distracting from the central matter. A judge, somewhere, probably listened to a mediator or custody evaluator, SOMEwhere, follow their prescriptions, per policies set in place in the late 1980s / early 1990s and funded to this day, to enforce the theology that a child without a father is a fish without water.
It is up to the larger public NOT in these courts –either as litigants or married to one, or employed by them, or having a profession sustained by them (now WHAT % of the populace does this leave unaffected?) to make itself actually not only larger (which it is), but VOCAL, and INVOLVED, and LEARNED in the vocabulary principals and players. AND then do something appropriate. At some point, the “at least that’s not My neighborhood, family, kids, wife, police officer, lawsuit, judicial district, etc. ” the “it’s not my business” theology needs to be confronted. Please help, I say. Stop picking up the broken souls floating downstream in “social programs” and stop the breaking which is starting FAR, far closer to the top than imaginable.
Michael Connolly, 40, failed to return the boys to their mother – his ex-wife – on Sunday, March 8.
Initially, investigators thought Connolly might be in the Chicago area where his relatives live in southwest suburban Oak Lawn. But now, authorities say they found bodies matching the descriptions of the two missing Leroy, Illinois, brothers and cancelled the Amber Alert.
Authorities say the children’s bodies were found Sunday inside a car registered to Michael Connolly. Police happened upon the 1991 Dodge Dynasty after receiving a call about a suspicious vehicle in a secluded area. At around 6 p.m. Sunday, investigators examined the vehicle and found two deceased boys in the back seat area. The body of a man matching Michael Connolly’s description was found about 60 feet west of the car. Autopsies have been scheduled.
The sheriff has not said if there were any obvious signs of trauma or if a weapon was recovered.
On the day that the boys disappeared, there was a restraining order in place against Michael Connolly because authorities say he continued to harass his ex-wife. The two had divorced in 2007 after 13 years of marriage.
Let’s talk about this. The restraining order folk is ONE foot of a large, virtual, giant marching across the land. The “but kids need their Dads” (symbolized primarily by family courts) is the other large, stomping foot. Clunk, Clunk Clunk across the land, and in circles, gradually clearing the territory of live, untraumatized people. Stomp, Stomp, Stomp down the decades. These feet are connected at the Head. The Head believes itself to know what’s best for the people below (who are relatively speaking, ants). The legs above the feet are unequal, moreover one foot faces forward, and the other backward. This is why it is so HARD to get free from abuse. The restraining order purports to confront, protect, and separate. The family court purports to, and presumes this is advisable and possible, reunite, supervise, reform, and modify a relationship that JUST SPLIT.
It’s mowing down families. As we speak, this appears to be another one (details unclear yet)(2 adult males & 2 handguns inside, I DNK if this was DV related or not. DK it was not the kids’ fault…..):
6 Killed In California Home Shooting
At Least 3 Of Victims Children In Murder-Suicide In Silicon Valley
SANTA CLARA, Calif., March 30, 2009
Santa Clara police officer stand watch outside the crime scene where six people, including at least three children, were killed and one was critically injured late Sunday night in an apparent murder-suicide at a townhome development in Santa Clara, Calif., on Monday, March 30, 2009. (AP Photo/Tony Avelar)
MORE STORIES
- Gunman Stopped By Single Bullet To Chest
- Suspect’s Estranged Wife Worked At N.C. Nursing Home Where 8 Were Killed Before Lone Police Officer Intervened.
??? “Where gunman killed 7 elderly patients, 1 male nurse attempting to intervene until someone with a gun showed up and stopped the shooter.”
Passive tense. The spin, obviously is on the guns, and the body count, not the criminal behavior:
“Investigators are looking into whether Stewart may have targeted the facility because his estranged wife worked there, police said Monday. [Why doesn’t this surprise me?]
McKenzie said investigators are looking at whether what he called domestic issues may have been the motive for Stewart to open fire on his defenseless victims. Investigators said multiple weapons were recovered at the scene. [HEY! I have and had “domestic issues.” I never yet took up a gun to solve them. It ain’t the “domestic issues”].McKenzie said the woman – whom he did not name – worked at the nursing home. He said he believed that the couple was recently separated but that he did not have any other details. He was not sure if the woman was at the nursing home at the time of the shootings. “
Incidentally, re: Heroic Nurse, yes, the nurse WAS heroic. Not mentioned in THIS title is that a gunman was going after his ex-wife, and she happened to work in a nursing home. It “bled” so it “led,” but a choice was made to discuss the hero rather than the “villain” in this one.
Maybe we should just outlaw divorce (which appears to be dangerous). Knowing this, many women would probably just not marry, or even attempt to fully intimately bond with a partner, or for that matter, their kids. We ARE headed that way, right?
- “Sue Griffin … said she was an ex-wife of Stewart’s who hadn’t spoken with him since their 2001 divorce, told reporters that in the past Stewart had exhibited “violent tendencies” from time to time.
- “He’d get mad because of things that didn’t go his way. He never really hurt me, but he would get mad and blow up,” she said.
- Griffin, who divorced Stewart after 15 years of marriage, said he had been trying to reach her during the past week through family members.
- She said Stewart claimed to have cancer and needed to go away. But he gave no hint of the violence he had planned for this quiet Carolina town. “
BACK to the FATHER ON WEEKEND VISITATION WITH TWO SONS….
Joint custody with a batterer is unsafe and impossible. It hurts the kids. They will sooner or later HAVE to pick a side. It also hurts the communities surrounding these two people. They’re SPLIT, dammit! Make a fair judgment based on whatever brought them into court to start with, based on any criminal behaviors. Apart from criminal behaviors, leave them alone.
Stop hiring more experts to create more names to reframe existing, graphically uncomfortable to describe behavior that, done by a stranger, would be cause for arrest. STOP the thought crime, the behavior crimes, the NOT being dependent on social services crime (among which is homeschooling, or being a successful single parent, I found out), and the other such like.
I think the 10 commandments are JUST fine, including not only the one the Catholics tend to omit (#2), the one the Protestants and the Catholics, generally speaking violate weekly (#4, as I recall, it’s the sabbath), and the one the state habitually violates (Honor your mother and father), along with the don’t commit adultery, perjury (“bear false witness”) and #s 1 & 10 which, if one does NOT violate, it’s hard to live a reasonable life in this republic. The first relates to not having other Gods before this one (which is generally looked on askance around these parts) and “thou shalt not covet,” which is related. Accordingly, we have to consume, be consumers, and raise our children to be good little materialistic consumers, because of the economy. This is more likelyo what (I feel) the womb to tomb concept of “public education” (etc.) is about. How complex is that, really?
The Chicago-area family of the two missing brothers had pleaded with the boys’ father to bring them home.
(Well — see below– the father had already made it clear his intent was to punish his ex-wife. FYI, pleading with some in on the position to extort you (i.e.,hostages taken) doesn’t generally work. Trust me.)
“We love the boys so much. We want them back. We want everybody back. We want our family back together,” said Joyce Connolly, Michael Connolly’s aunt.
The boys’ mother, Amy Leichtenberg, said she warned a judge her ex-husband might take off with the children.
“I told him he was a flight risk. My attorney told him he was a flight risk. Nobody believed me,” said Leichtenberg.
[That was the Amber alert, coming from someone who was paying attention.]
Police had said there was reason to be worried about the boys.
“We are concerned because we’ve had some incidents in the past with Mr. Connolly that indicate he is not a stable individual and that he makes verbal threats towards himself, the children and his ex-wife,” Chief Gordon Beck, LeRoy Police Department, said during the search.
ALL of this behavior is self-explanatory in a “Conduit System” frozen in its rigidity. Major players in the situation KNEW that this man was a risk for kid-snatching. The fact a domestic violence restraining order was actually necessary (presumed in that it was granted), is itself a danger sign. I feel that not to jump, shout, make a stink and in short react in a Non-Numb manner is necessary at times to counter then Numb-Dumb responses of the “that’s just waht you said” mentality, driven by “children need their fathers, we are a fatherless nation, Dads Count too, and so forth” grants system driving the mentality of the court system which is driving families into the ground, sometimes more than literally, as in this case. I happen to listen to and know women who have lost their children to batterers, and we repeat this experience so often — kids being abused, children being stolen by the father on an overnight, sometimes out of state, or in my case, in-state (meaning Amber Alert didn’t even squeak, police wouldn’t act, and judge, thereafter, refused to give a factual and legal basis for (her) decision.))
If I’m run-on, it’s intentional, maybe to counter the Shut-Up system that continues to function in it’s blunderbuss manner to smack at families, emotionally, after someone has filed a “restraining order,” and generally after plenty of previous smacking around, intimately-speaking (“IPV”). I am about to blow the calm and light-hearted demeanor of this blog with the severity of what’s up. I have spent decades (two, so far) with this issue, and attempted to live my life around it, leave with my heart in my mouth, raise our daughters and work around it. In the process, and I’m not at all the only one, I have been after abuse exposed to the worst of the worst of the system, it seems, in the highest reaches of its authority, and sometimes within my own family.
“He has always told me,
cause I took the kids from him,
that I would suffer just like he did,” said Leichtenberg (Mother).
Well, he was a man of his word.
Written by Let's Get Honest|She Looks It Up
March 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Posted in Cast, Script, Characters, Scenery, Stage Directions, Domestic Violence vs Family Law, Fatal Assumptions, History of Family Court, Lethality Indicators - in News, Vocabulary Lessons
Tagged with "We had no idea!", custody, domestic violence, family annihilation, family law, men's rights, murder-suicides, social commentary
Does IPV, DV talk stop it? 2 Australians Talk about this.
Actually, “speak” would be more accurate than”talk.” I have put together two links on this topic. The 2nd was a referral, the 1st inspired today’s blog to which I, a U.S. Citizen, respond.
“Shining a light into the murky depths of partner violence”
An update on IPV in Australia that came to my attention. The article is posted in full below.
My next blog is my viewpoint on the migration of ideas from afar, also pointing out that foggy vocabulary can be intentional, or careless, but either way, transmigration of bad ideas “happens.”
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Katie Dunlop [credits below article] talks like me, which is why I posted her whole article here. With feedback interspersed. I do not share her optimism in the general public’s will to do something about it, if only they realized what IPV really was, if only the media would get it straight.
BUT She notices the discrepancy between what “IPV” represents, visually, in real-time injuries and deaths. She is THINKING about the topic with a view to addressing it.
When “IPV” (yes, that’s a euphemism) becomes “IV” (intravenously injected into your life, either directly or vicariously association) there are only two options: ACTING or NOT ACTING. The only way I can guess how people choose NOT ACT is that they have become adept at NOT THINKING, possibly as a survival skill.
Commentary:
When a known batterer not only has, but has been given, one’s children (case in point) (was I “gender-neutral enough” in that statement?) this not thinking about it is somewhat harder. I have also watched my family figure out (with apparent grace & ease) how to “not think about it.” They refuse to interact with me (probably because in most contacts, I focus on some version of “where are my daughters?” or “Why are you continuing to support someone who refuses to comply with any court order, give any account of seeking work, let alone who used to smack me around in front of them?“). These are not pleasant topics for any of us, naturally, and I feel that polite small talk is inappropriate for what are to me heinous (and insulting) crimes. In my family circle, any interaction using the words properly (legally) identifying the situation are tabu. This was how I determined my particular family of origin’s religion (if its secret, whatever belief sustains this practice of “we won’t talk about it.”), by tabulating the tabus, and taking note of who was sacrificed for what cause. Like many other religions, the sacrificees include women, elderly, and small children.
Another analogy that came to my mind in this matter, and in these societies, are simple packs of dogs. Once pecking order** is established, fighting and posturing are reduced. And face it, laws against domestic violence (IPV), or “hitting [primarily women] in the home” challenged the pecking order (**YES, I realize I have mixed-animal metaphors here; like any good bird dog, I cast about for words that smell right).
I have all along had irreconciliable differences with being hit in my home, and since then, irreconciliable differences with historical revisionism on the same. It’s also occurred to me that batterer fathers sometimes snatch the kids partly in order just to retain an stray female in the extended circle of influence, which certainly must be gratifying to the ego, I suppose. She’s not going to run TOO far if he has her kids.
Transcontinental Evolution of Ideas?
I feel for Ms. Dunlop, a certain innocence in thinking that the process of reporting and assuming that all parties, or the majority of the populace WANTS it to stop. Perhaps Australia has not yet gone through the shut-up or lose-your-kids process as thoroughly as here in the USA, where it is a war for proprietary use of the words Parent, Family, Child, and Abuse. I know the process happens, I have been reading.
This post on talking about IPV seems an appropriate time to reference “offourbacks.org,” and its classic “The Grammar of Male Violence.” Grammatic preference for indefinite concept nouns over actual actors shifts the focus from what happened to the theoretical air. For example:
“Domestic dispute costs 5 lives, again.”
Oh, really? No it didn’t. “Domestic dispute” is a word-label, and words do not directly shoot, stab, kill, behead its 3rd wife, or drop a 4 year old (female) child off a bridge to her death. A dispute doesn’t stalk. A dispute doesn’t cause one parent to adhere to court orders and another to break them. Or to issue orders that ignore safety issues. As hate-talk can incite violence, generic-noun descriptors for awful, graphically bloody or emotionally devastating, cash-flow-freezing, household switching, community-disrupting, taxpayer funds wasting events.
Generic nouns are the crime scene cleanup crew, on air. Now, a lot of us use words carelessly, but I DOUBT this is the case with either politicians, major news media [many of which are monopolies in the U.S.], or policymakers — i.e., anyone who has something that must sell.
So, Let’s Get Honest: Do not get caught with your pants down depersonalizing domestic violence or shielding an offence with the language of mutuality, at least when conversing with me, or within range of my blogs.
Thank you Ms. Dunlop, for speaking up, though.
[My comments inside brackets]
“Shining a light into the murky depths of partner violence”
Katie Dunlop
March 20, 2009
DOMESTIC violence, family violence, violence against women, intimate partner violence: we definitely have a range of phrases for the abuse men inflict on women and children within what ought to be relationships of trust and love. [Indeed, that is the real travesty, and very disturbing and disorienting once it begins] Pity we don’t use them to describe the murders we often see on our front pages — the kids driven into the dam or gassed in the car, the wife or girlfriend stabbed in her kitchen, thrown off a cliff or shot in scrubland.
[Well, I do! But yes, these terms are much more graphic, vivid and telling. And this is one reason I posted your article…It tells this.]
Aberrations? Love gone wrong? No. These instances of violence are just the tip of the iceberg. Intimate partner violence (IPV) is everywhere, even if you don’t know it. It seems the subject of IPV is taboo, so those who experience it assume the abuse is their problem [I’m glad you have qualified “it seems.” Speaking personally, I never assumed I caused “the abuse” (my ex to assault me), but because I lived with it, it became “my” problem.] and not the social and public health issue it really is. We need to start talking about IPV and we need to do it now. [Who, exactly is the “we”? These people already are. I just googled “Intimate Partner Violence in Australia” and 38,500 results arose, 3 of them scholarly articles.] I have long known that relationships could be abusive, but it had never occurred to me that IPV was a common experience for so many Australian women. […”until I – – – – – .” Thank you for the refreshing honesty. But I’m curious what pivotal factor got you involved? Was it a friend? Was it you? A relative? A poster somewhere? A news article. I would have liked to see the end of that sentence, giving more detail.]
Well, I didn’t know either, til it hit me, in the face. Not even until after I got out, years almost later, and read, and networked, did I realize the extent of it. This is because (#1) one facet of abuse is isolation. Like mold, it grows in the damp & dark privacy. It is NOT unnamed, it is simply called something else: “obedience,” “submission” “leadership” etc.. A true dilemma exists, because generally speaking homes SHOULD be private, but still this happens. Another reason (#2) may be that it’s simply not pleasant cocktail conversation.
Therefore, people who get involved are usually intensely personally involved. These typically fall into one of about three campaigns: (1) Like you, stopping IPV, and discussing how to, or (2) Stopping the Discussion of IPV. This cat is already out of the bag internationally; talk [more like clamor, debate, accusation and cross-accusation] IS happening, the general tactics of group#2, with whom I am unfortunately familiar, are to rename it, or divert the conversations on it into something less offensive and personal [to the abusers}, as in Richard Gardner, high-conflict (vs’ “violent’) and “alternate dispute resolution.” In MY book, me flat on the floor, or that family just slaughtered is NOT a “dispute,” nor was it before it happened, either. It was not a dispute, it was a battle. FYI, (1)s don’t talk with (2)s, they flood each other’s blogs, report about each other’s activities and try to stop each other’s forward progress, as in any good (?) political campaign.
And the (3)rd camp, alas, is simply opportunistic and recognizes a market niche when it sees one. The hallmarks of this general camp are pride on “not taking a side” (while doing exactly like that). Ships of state are indeed large, and although rudder sWILL steer a large ship, that rudder has to be properly placed. The rudders involve such things as words, money, and political connections / policy. Policy in the USA has to supposedly be based on something to help “the people” (that’s, for example, us poor suckers than need intervention of some sort from abuse, or homelessness in order to help fund these ships). As such, studies MUST be done to justify the policies. Here is where universities (Harvard et al), foundations, and nonprofits producing reports for the same come in. This is far more complex than saying “IPV is wrong and costs lives.”]. More than a third of Australian women who have had a boyfriend or husband experience abuse. Most shockingly, IPV is the leading contributor to death, disability and illness in women aged between 15 and 44.
[Where’s the citation? Mine is http://www.acestudy.org (to the right on this blog) and many, many other sources confirm.]
Since I began working with women who have experienced abuse, the reality of IPV has become even starker. Rather than numbers on a page, these are real women with faces and histories. Each of them has a unique but common story: of living with control, fear and abuse, and courageously doing all they can to look after themselves and their children who, as IPV witnesses and victims, also suffer devastating effects.
[The operative word here is “them.” Please produce their stories — and perhaps pay them something for it as well, once facts are checked. Now that would indeed help directly, as well as crisis intervention.]
If you are surprised at the extent of IPV, you are not alone. Our awareness of IPV in Australia is very poor. According to a recent Victorian study, many [many who? many women, many men?] think that women abuse their partners as much as men (false: men are the perpetrators 98 per cent of the time) or that IPV is excusable if it represents a “temporary loss of control”, or if the abuser subsequently apologises (false: many IPV incidents, especially murders, are premeditated).
How can we work together to solve a national crisis if a significant portion of the nation is unaware of the crisis in the first place? [According to your report, assuming women are perhaps half the population (DNK about Down Under), approximately 1/6th of them, not including children, already are, by virtue of experiencing it. However, to name it is one step, to leave it quite another.] In an atmosphere where IPV is shrouded in silence and myth, asking for help involves the risk of being judged or misunderstood.
We must aim for a society in which women can ask for help, secure in the knowledge they will be supported and respected. [I would like to change this paradigm and address the absent noun — the men who hit (not all men do). Why “women”? ????? [hint — the question marks are a link, also see blogroll…”The Grammar of Male Violence” has been on this “offourbacks.org” site since 2004. It still applies. Let’s help keep each other honest. Get off MY back and, in the discussions, grammatically, REFUSE to use generic nouns, passive verbs and an abundance of references to women followed by the verbs such as “need, are, become,” and other things which are reminiscent of panhandling which is what we get reduced for when we must go too many rounds asking for ‘intervention,” without the full data on who is doing this and with what agenda.]
Why not aim instead for a society in which such men fear and hate to beat a woman, because there are SOCIAL consequences, and/or possibly PHYSICAL, including that he might suddenly find himself on the receiving end of a return defensive volley? or FINANCIAL — institute and enforce IMMEDIATE financial penalties. upon conviction.**] [I know a lot of women (I’m 50+) and barely a one of them qualifies as helpless and waiting for it. The term “women can ask for help” is not specific enough.] [**This may not be wise, as we have seen that some abusers will die rather than stick around to take the consequences of an escalation in abuse, especially when it goes lethal.]
Re: this phrase:
We must aim for a society in which women can ask for help, secure in the knowledge they will be supported and respected. [This one phrase stood out as the most inappropriate, though it sounds great. Who is “we”? Do you not realize that what may appear to be a “we” actually includes a great many individuals in high authority who don’t necessarily agree that violence against women IS unacceptable (in private). ?? These exist in the exact same quarters that didn’t talk about it (when knowing it happened) to start with. Is there a way in Australia to hold THOSE authorities accountable also? How about the religious institutions, the courts, the schools, the law enforcement — there are many areas where men who batter women live. Are they all going to undergo a housecleaning process?
When I filed my restraining order (it took time and wasn’t easy), yes, temporarily, I was a women receiving respect and help. There was a lot of repair and rebuilding, principally (but not only) profession! BUT, when I then proceeded to go about my life peaceably, and at a safe distance– setting boundaries and refusing to take orders (after a point) that weren’t in backed up by a court order, the father of my daughters (who was seeing them weekly, when he chose to, a very generous arrangement granted to him via mediation) other entities came in, advised my husband to bounce the case to family court, and as I speak, I have been unemployed for over a year, and not seen my daughters, basically, for almost three ( glimpse here and there) Seeing them is held in abeyance by two factors: 1. STILL, a concern for physical safety, and 2. STILL, economic duress. This is now close to 20 years of my adult, prime-time life when people are attempting to establish a livelihood that may support them now AND later, if not for children. I had to stop and duke it out in a court system. In retrospect, it MIGHT’ve been better to stay and duke it out with him in a different matter .]
Being equipped with the information and ability to talk about IPV also allows us to recognise and respond to the signs of abuse in our own relationships and in those of our friends and family. By transforming our silence — which implicitly accepts and condones IPV — into a loud and clear conversation, [Beautiful phrase, thank you. One of the most telling books I read was called “Transforming Abuse” and it addressed this silence.] we create a society where IPV has few places to hide. We create a society that expresses zero tolerance for violence against women.
[I am so sorry. This sounds great, but you LOST me at “create a society.” No thank you. I am not in that “we” and I wouldn’t be in the US either. If you are going to “Create a society,” first you have to define who is the “creator”[and as I’m a Christian you just lost me] and who is the substance being created. This kind of elitist thinking that started the compulsory school system in the US to counteract, it appears, influxes of Catholics from Europe. President Obama declares this can be turned around if “we” just try harder and spend more, especially on pre-school education. I have been looking for a way to tell him (and my local representative) that in my opinion, we need LESS school not MORE . That any institution that is over 100 years old and has basically drained the populace of time and money, resulting in trailing the industrial nations in results does NOT need to expand. That children’ don’t learn as well in herds as they do in smaller units, and those smaller units are FAMILIES that have time to network with each other, and so become integrated into their communities. That, plus internet, plus taking them OUT of more school and INTO more arts, dance, science projects, and so forth, will get the job done IF the job you are actually intent on doing is “Education” (in its true sense), not behavioral modification. I am an educator, and feel I have a right to say this.
I believe as to THAT organization, the flaw is inherent in the design, and that intent to recreate a society instead of take care of your own folks, locally, is part of the problem.
This would be off-topic were there not so many similarities in attitude, execution, and processes between our educational systems and our court systems, primary of which are who runs them and who funds them, as opposed to who they “serve.”
SO, [no offence taken, the terminology is in the air, so if you inhaled some, or envisioned a great society, I understand.]
FYI, I have been tracking these things, and yes, people are in some world views (and circles) viewed as substances to be manipulated, means-tested, and randomly sampled. In others, they have God-given inalienable rights they will FIGHT for, one of them is NOT to be someone else’s creation, but their own. If you want to “create” become and artist, architect, or maybe a mother, and please obtain prior permission from the subjects manipulated.]
[Question: Is this possibly the paradigm such abusive men are also fighting against? The concept of being formed and fashioned into something not of their choosing? Or, was this just how they learned it growing up?]
The reality is that the creation of this type of society is within our capacity. [In other words, you’re a progressive who does not believe there are flaws inherent in human nature, for which laws exist and — I say — a Redeemer was needed…I realize this is thin ice publically, but even so, I find that the “our” almost never includes the primary stakeholders — the women leaving abue, the women going through the court system, and beyond that, children who MOST need protection and help and are being sexually abused by their fathers after divorce, AFTER reporting it, too. Do you want to address the overlap between domestic violence and child molestation in the major media? Good luck!] Often the media contribute to the silence on IPV by failing to discuss it constructively or not discussing it at all. Rather than leaving us at an impasse, this points us to a valuable opportunity. Imagine the possibilities for socially responsible reporting that would arise out of a collaborative relationship between IPV experts, survivors and volunteers and journalists.
[The IPV experts ARE the survivors and volunteers. Some of the survivors and volunteers also journal. The experts making a nice living off this subscribe to journals I myself cannot afford. i do get abstracts of many of them from
The IPV service community should provide journalists with training on IPV issues and support the media’s coverage of IPV incidents. It should offer information about IPV, advice on sensitive and educational reporting, and the opportunity for journalists to personalise each story by drawing on the perspectives of IPV survivors [DO they lack that opportunity? They’re journalists. They can ask questions, right? They have access to Internet, and have likely heard of the term IPV before. EVERY story has a spin. The question is, which one?] . Media collectives of this type would help smash the silence on intimate partner violence by ensuring that, where it is present in the fabric of society, IPV is also present on the pages of our newspapers. This is one small idea, one small step, but one that might make us a bit more aware of IPV and with that, a bit more eager to act on a phenomenon that is destroying the hearts and bodies of so many Australian women and children. No idea is a silver bullet: solutions happen when small ideas act in concert. If we take this idea of IPV media collectives, add some national, ongoing, school-based healthy relationships education and opportunities for adults to engage with the issue of IPV in a constructive and personal way, I have great faith that we will be taking our first steps in a society where IPV is taken out of the hiding place that to date has afforded it protection.
[Again, Ms. Dunlop, thank you for your outreach work in the Eastern DV Crisis Center. Please LISTEN to the women not only in that crisis center, but also women like the one who designed “Anonymums” and many more. Think about the family law issues. I have been been, and my studies repeatedly show that damaging standards and paradigms in the US also exist and are thriving in Canada and also Australia. Please learn from our mistakes and struggles, and maybe save some bloodshed down under, or simply reduce the trauma.
I will say it again, and I hope loudly enough. I am NOT part of someone’s great society, or a willing participant in this dream. I long for the day when I have the wherewithal to tell quite a few re-creators (of my lives and relationships) to take a hike, get a life, get real, and let me get back (with what’s left of my years, strength, stamina and nerve) to my own. Perhaps after the crisis centers, you can speak with women a decade or two out of domestic violence and incorporate their wisdom into your ideas. We are SICK, I believe, of being someone else’s market niche, professional career, and while I’m at it, publishing credentials.]
[Thank you for noting IPV, doing something about it, and envisioning a zero tolerance for Domestic violence. I was just wondering where were the people who thought about self-defense for women as part of basic marriage counseling, or perhaps catching them further upstream — financial independence as a part and parcel of marriage. Those TWO factors — can’t protect herself, and can’t support herself while fleeing the guy — are crucial. I told people who didn’t want me to live separate from this man to Go Take a Hike, and I went back to my business. They ignored me, went behind my back, and through (as it happens) the child support system in this country, helped him cut back on his support before I was in one place. It was a multi-faceted attack on independence. Right now, my mother (elderly & frail) is also involved, unwillingly, but she has no choice. I still don’t have (yet) a safe choice for her when i do not myself have this. Many, many times, I have looked back on my marriage and wondered if I’d been stronger earlier, or taught as a woman that’ it’s OK and feminine to fight back; If I had NOT sought help from outside the home (at all), but made damn sure that there would not be a second assault.
Instead, female-like, Christian-like, I went to someone in authority — consistently, for years — and asked for intervention. This did not come, and about 7-8 years later, my teeth were knocked loose in an assault, by which time I’d stopped reporting and was focusing on exiting. What DID help me out and survive was simply reading stories of other women who did and HOW they did.]
Katie Dunlop is an outreach worker with the Eastern Domestic Violence Crisis Service and is a contributing author of The Future by Us, published this week by Hardie Grant. If you are experiencing abuse, the Women’s Domestic Violence Crisis Service is a 24 hour/7 days a week telephone service providing support, information and accommodation. Call 9373 0123, or Country toll free 1800 015 188
NEXT TOPIC: When there are kids:
Anonymums
The issue of IPV naturally entails the obvious fact that “intimacy” (a.k.a. sex) sometimes leads to pregnancy sometimes leads to children. The links below, also from Australia, addresses the “mums” aspect of trying to LEAVE domestic violence, or worse (worse?), protect one’s children from it, or from (worse, although it overlaps), child sexual abuse. Darn, another “tabu.” Well, folks . . . . .
On Anonymums links page, See “Leave them alone: she is protecting her children.”
In the U.S. this can be cause for imprisonment. Committing the acts which occasioned her to seek protection may or may NOT be cause for imprisonment. Again, enforcement is a gendered issue when it comes to child-stealing. If you don’t believe me, post a comment, and I’ll respond. Here’s the “background” to the article. The link (above) has a link to more background
Background (Preamble):Swedish mother Ann-Louise Valette and her two sons Frank Oliver Valette, 11, and Andre Nicholas Valette, 9 have been plastered all over the newspapers as being “abducted”. A revealing article states that she was concerned about child sexual abuse that had not been substantiated.Anyone who has gone through the courts and worked in this area knows that most cases of child sexual abuse are underreported and the chances of getting help to substantiate it in the middle of a family court battle are minimal – The police won’t even go near it and child protection passes the buck saying that its family courts area.
Lawyers filter these things because they know legal aid finds protecting children “expensive”. The facts are:
False Allegations of child abuse in the family court are as low as 5%
For years the Family Court has been systematically ignoring substantiated child abuse and domestic violence.
Family Violence and Child Sexual abuse are underreported.
Australia is one of the highest rate male dominated police force in the world. Since the “No Fault divorce”, it is mainly mothers who are running with their children, Since the shared parenting bill, homicides increased by 14% in 2006.
There is no domestic violence homicide review team in Australia. Most mothers run with their children because of family violence and child abuse.
Summary/Opinion:
USA’s bad policies go worldwide FAST. Those who can fly abroad to run conferences on how to run families (back to the abusers they left, which can be into the ground, either literally or financially). Women attempting to keep a low profile (not antagonize abuser), or flee violence, are not present en masse in these conferences: Either we are not asked, we can’t afford to attend, or they are membership-only, closed-corporation processes (see “AFCC” for one) and intended NOT to have our input.
Written by Let's Get Honest|She Looks It Up
March 25, 2009 at 5:34 AM
Posted in "Til Death Do Us Part" (literally), After She Speaks Up - Reporting Child Sexual Abuse, Domestic Violence vs Family Law, Lethality Indicators - in News, Vocabulary Lessons
Tagged with "We had no idea!", domestic violence, family law, Intimate partner violence, IPV, obfuscation, social commentary, women's rights
When she “Shows and Tells” — take it seriously. It takes courage.
We tell young people to speak up about abuse.
This one did.”
Our global village — it seems to me that approximately one a week, at least nationwide, is occurring. The police WILL respond, and will sometimes prevent or minimize the fall-out, but more likely (they are only human, they are not omnipresent) they will count and identify the bodies, and speak to reporters, and neighbors. This is too late for those speaking up. This can be true when it comes to domestic violence also.
Before you read this post — if you read fast, if you skim well, and if you could commit to read THREE (3) pages of single-spaced, narrative, print, you will understand more: Do NOT pass go. Click on the centered title “Brave Children Speak Up” Read the first page “intro”, to the bottom, hit “next” or “continued,” then the next page to the bottom, click on “next” and then the 3rd page, to the bottom (individual stories).
Brave Children Speak Up
Alanna’s story is well-known — she finally fled from Northern California to Southern (Los Angeles) and was able to get help.
How I Process (present tense) My Experience (past)
I did not experience abuse as a child. Mine didn’t start til I was almost 40 years old. Yet I will affirm — you are not the same afterwards — your understanding of the world is not the same either, and never will be. You can function, but you sprout antenna, learn to “deal,” test your systems of meaning (all, for the most part, remain suspect), and are much, much, MUCH more alert to the various signals and possible interpretations of almost every one. This is rough on people you wish to maintain friendships, let alone a romantic connection, with. I know that I “tested.’ When my friend passed the test, didn’t blow up, didn’t run away, it frightened me more. I lost so many job situations that (for a period), I began to self-sabotage work rather than experience the forced-out situation again. (Economic control is a primary means of control). I felt like I was another species for a while, and finally accepted that, in some respects, I was. And I was NOT sexually abused as a child. . . . Or beaten. . . . Or deprived.
Negotiating what for others is often an Average situation:
[Leaving home. Coming back home. Possibly reporting what happened at home — to be continued. . . ]
One dilemma still up for grabs is a difficult one. I have faith, but I do not trust churches. This affects support systems and for sure sociability. But, I will affirm — there ARE people (both genders) who target these areas, and this IS one area a vulnerable (to being dominated to excess) women can be found. They also take in divorced and needy women, at times, hence, a charming unscrupulous man will find ample fields there.
One has to constantly renegotiate meaning in life. I have come to believe this is an asset. Intuition comes in handy in many fields (particularly artistic ones or ones that deal with group dynamics).
When abuse happens mid-way, or later in life, it is difficult to know what goals to set, in exiting it. It is also VERY difficult to exit it, as by middle age, so many professions, communities, and connections have come. More schooling is not always the answer. What about relationships?
I cannot imagine being a child who has betrayed by an adult.
Mine were (I will testify and do). But I cannot imagine it still, how to callous onesself and just go deal with it.
Again:
Brave Children Speak Up
I cannot think too hard on this one today. I refuse to abuse substances to turn my mind away. Each day’s internal parasympathetic (?) wiring stands alone, how much it can handle, but because I know what it’s like to have people “unable to stomach” my truths, I try to process and stomach others’ I read about. Can you handle this one? Perhaps you can. Children in the situation HAVE to.
I would like to say: It’s not the gun, but the attitude in the person carrying the gun. If it was not a gun, it could be a knife, an ax, or as happened recently a sword.
It’s also another, more communal problem called “denial.”
February 25, 2009
14 year old Priscilla Amador did not want to have sex or interact sexually with a man 40 years her senior. Especially her father. About 8 years of this was too much. Finally she worked up courage to tell: The Miami Herald, 2-27-09Police respond to “shots fired” and find family dead in murder-suicide
Editor’s note: This tragic incident is one of several like it that have surfaced recently. Although the exact details are not yet known, the mass violence it reflects needs to be noted.
. . . “It’s important to remember that one of the most dangerous persons an officer can face is someone who feels they’ve got nothing to live for and nothing to lose. There are a growing number of those people and that’s a very real threat to officer safety and survival. Now, more than ever, officers need to be highly trained, highly focused and thoroughly prepared to deal with the threats and challenges of doing their jobs in a time of crisis.”
Stay alert, be trained—even if it means taking steps to seek your own training—and remember that even “regular people” who would otherwise seem harmless and unlikely to pose a deadly threat, like the man in this incident, may in fact be extremely dangerous.
— Scott Buhrmaster, PoliceOne Managing Editor
RE: “ someone who feels they’ve got nothing to live for “
My recommended reading: Viktor Frankl, “Man’s Search for Meaning.”
There are choices, even in a concentration camp.
Another link that is not always explored, but should be, is the pharmaceutical connection. I speak as someone whose father in law was on medication (and committed suicide). Not smart to tinker too much with this chemistry. My policy is, don’t! Your body was designed smart: handle with care.
By Matt Sedensky
Associated PressMIAMI — A 53-year-old man fatally shot his wife and two daughters Wednesday before turning the gun on himself, and a 16-year-old son who survived the attack managed to call 911 as he escaped uninjured from the Miami home, authorities said. . . .
Sarit Betancourt, a 44-year-old school bus driver who lives near the family, said the father is a Cuban immigrant who gave piano lessons at a guitar shop and at his home. Betancourt’s two sons, ages 9 and 10, had been taking piano lessons from him once a week since 2006.
“He was a marvelous person and a tremendous professor,” she said. “People would enter the house, and you just breathed peace.”
[WELL, not for a little girl….]
PLEASE READ THE LINK (above) & THINK.
It cost her -- and her sister -- and her mother - their lives. I speculate that HE could not stand the shame or public exposure -- that task had been assigned (by him) for HER to carry. I'll say, assuming the charges were valid. One way to cut short THAT conversation, well, see headlines. "Be Prepared!" How? I don't know, but I know I must find out. So should you. I cannot editorialize much today. I am processing this one... I have teens. I also know that the issue is NOT primarily sex. It's about character, values, and entitlements. I do not think we should be suspecting all our neighbors of this (though clearly it's underreported). Perhaps we should all make sure that our kids have at least ONE other NON-family member they can confide in, and who know them. And we should all be informed of the overlap between wife abuse and child abuse. And that our young women are to value, and be able to hold, boundaries. Unfortunately, these boundaries are daily violated in so many contexts (including schools), that I'm at some loss to, as I posted elsewhere, safety a "place." I think that self-sufficiency has to be a THING you carry with you. As I said, today, there are limits to what can be processed. But I will not drop the topic. Are you, reader, aware that in Family Courts across the nation, custody of children, when contested, it being given to batterers in retaliation for reporting abuse of one form or another. If you don't believe me, believe the children who reported, and lived to tell:Related Articles:
Six die in L.A. family murder-suicide
Police: L.A. man kills wife, 5 children, himself over job troubles
Officials: Financial crisis can lead to violence
Police survey links crime spike to economy
As economy dives, crime fears spike
Written by Let's Get Honest|She Looks It Up
March 20, 2009 at 6:50 AM
WHY Family Court (let’s get honest) “matters” to us all…
…Even if you’re not inside the doors. . .
…Even if you have your “act” together —
…Even if you’re not IN any marital or intimate partner act. Or relationship.
You are probably living with, next to, or in association with someone who has been. At least one of the people who go behind those doors into this family law / let’s mediate / co-parent / share custody / just get along (adversarial) system is going to be traumatized.
Another will be probably robbed. A third will be shocked. A fourth will be rewarded. A fifth will be back for more easy victories by hearsay accusations the next time he (or she) has a grudge. A sixth will be forced back to negotiate with the abusive partner she (OK, now you can argue: \”or he\”) was attempting to separate from — and will be lectured, after having worked up courage to do this — not to upset the children by showing anger, or conflict, because in this YOU-topia supposedly conflict never happens — or at LEAST never between parents.
This belief, along with Santa Claus, according to the same logic, is going to set your children on a good path for life.
A seventh will have been raised by one or more of the above. An eighth will be teaching (or in class next to) one of the above.
For a take on the intergenerational, societal transmission of trauma, see “www.sanctuaryweb.com“
Get real – – – and
Let’s Get Honest. Without hate.
Let’s look at the script (and playwrights) in family law.
Let’s look at the off-stage directions and who takes cues from whom. And let’s begin to understand that this is not a game, it is real people, real lives, and in some cases, physically “lost” in the drama.
Let’s ALL consider the profit/loss ratio in this endeavor, family law, family court services, custodyh evaluations, mediations, court-appointed guardians, and attempting to, through this process and under cover of “law”, force divorcing parties with enough anmosity they couldn’t work it out separately to come seeking a higher authority to punish the ex somehow, or extract children, or money from her or him, and on what basis. Personally, I (sarcastically) feel that both these words:
“FAMILY COURT“”
are accurate. The trick, like in any new culture, is to understand the idioms — usage — nuances. The “nuance” in this case is, assume the exact opposite is meant. Supposedly this is about “family,” and to help them. Supposedly courts, in the USA (and elsewhere) exist for the purpose of determining truth and dispensing justice. The words “public servant” possibly come to mind.
COURT: Go back a few hundred years, and think “court” again. Try Henry VIII or Louis XIV. Think about what takes place in the halls of a palace, and who gets to be there? How did one get an appointment at a palace? How did one, having obtained it, REtain it? There, that’s a little better, you’re getting warm… . . . Also, did you know that any attorney is considered an “officer of the court.” (not of you…) (I THINK).
FAMILY: The “Family” in question is less likely your own (which will be devastated, most likely, one way or another), but the true “FAMILY” here in are the professionals, and so-called experts that know they will be dealing with each other on an ongoing basis, referring business, exchanging pleasantries, and in some cases referring cases (translation: Jobs). “Good” for them actually could mean keeping a family IN the system. “Good” for the family biological generally means getting themselves OUT of the system and back to life as almost paranormal — or at least work, and sleep. Perhaps the words “fealty” or “feudal” are closer to the truth. I do not denigrate ethical, honest, overworked, and noble judges attorneys, or (well, I haven’t met such a mediator). I’m sure they exist, and among the approximately seven judges I’ve stood before in this case, some more than once, only the 3rd one would I characterize as ethical and having a reputation of actually having read the paperwork before him prior to ruling on it. Unfortunately, he quit family law, but I have been to date unable to.
The “COURT” does indeed hail back to royalty, and I think that is the most idealized among us that are going to lose in court. We have believed (prior to baptism by fire) that this system, while we weren’t in it, somehow existed, in ether, and would protect the innocent and help the falsely accused, if only the truth were at.
I tried that for many years with a man that, in about the 8th year of this “just trying to get along” (survive, from my standpoint), was offended, again, by a minor perceived provocation. I turned the music down, which was earsplitting and had just been turned up to make a point that the conversation was over. We had small children at this time. I reached over and turned a radio dial. Next thing you know, I had been grabbed, hurled, and landed on my chin in literally another room. Teeth were knocked loose.
I didn’t learn til many, MANY years later, that this was felony level domestic violence (serious injury caused) or that even a difference existed between the civil and criminal system existed. Why would I? I had prior to then inhabited churches, schools, parks (raising kids) with playgroups, and concert halls. I did not think that a DETAILED awareness of how our criminal, civil, and other justice system works, let alone knowing the laws of my state (and federal) were important to my safety and wellbeing. NOW, I think that at least the ability to navigate them, including what is the flowchart of a basic lawsuit (which is not that complicated…), should be required for high school graduation. Unfortunately, it appears that in too many US schools, we are still working on the ability to read. Period.
In other places, this may be called “DOMESTIC RELATIONS” or something similar. The same interpretions apply. Get your head out of the clouds and understand who is cozy with whom, and that it’s relationships, not evidence (in practice) that counts, in most arenas. THAT is the problem, and like the beginning of our country, principles count and are worth fighting to preserve, or restore. However one may bash “Dead White Males who owned slaves, or that it took women even longer to get the vote, the fact remains that that Constitution exists, as do the Bill of Rights. Like laws, muscles, or any other talent, they mean nothing without application towards the goal, and where these count is, they are that ideal. Or, should I yet say “were”? – – Use it or lose it. . . ..
Let’s consider
what kind of emotion drives people even showing up, via an Order to Show Cause requesting a Motion to MAKE THAT WOMAN (or MAN) stop, pay, or give me (back) my children. Think about it, and about the logic of any authority (which these courts are, in fact that is primarily what they are, order-makers) then telling both parties — when only one initiated the motion — (this is now the script) that “conflict” is bad for kids, so pretend you don’t have any, or no more contact with your kids. And let’s compare that with things such as, the state laws, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and so forth.. . . . MANY of these families, with kids, ended up there precisely because of out of court conflicts that had almost gotten lethal, or had hurt someone. The basic premise of any legal motion is that some “wrong” happened ( “tort” = “wrong” — and believe me, I didn’t learn that term even 3 years into the system), and therefore the court should redress it. However, in entering the halls, when kids are involved, thinking goes haywire, and despite the system of “tort” “redress” (etc.) on which law is based, the judges, and associated employees of the court, or an affiliate of it, then all communicate clearly that BOTH parties are wrong, since they couldn’t settle their own differences without court help. They are presumed needing a sound lecture of some sort, and of course therapy, if possible. The general idea of the process is DUE process. However, the general idea of the family law system as it now exists is virtual behavioral modification, and through this, I say, social engineering — mass scale. JUST REMEMBER “COURTS” // “ROYALTY.” Where do the allegiances typically lie? It often gets down to simply the character of the individual judges.
The desired result of a hearing in court is called and “order.” Contempt of it can (doesn’t often, but CAN) end one in jail. In the mythic interpretation of the process, which those of us without prior connections probably held going in, the order comes from a judge who is more noble and neutral than either of you, will hear EVIDENCE impartially, and in a manner coherent with the rules of court for the jurisdictions, and judicial ethics, as listening to attorneys (if any) who also abide by their professional codes of ethics, etc.
Like I just said above, about Santa Claus — ––
It being a stressed, fragmented world, in general, I imagine that you figure it’s “not your business.”
How about if I said, it’s your money, though, as a taxpayer?
How about if I said, it MAY just relate to the statistical probability of someone you know being a bystander of an irate spouse that took the law into his (and yes, it primarily IS “his” so, or the major news media AND USDOJ are both run by radical feminists, and censor mothers wiping out fathers, kids, bystander and a cop or two, and themselves because they were publicly humiliated, or just bitter, and couldn’t help themselves — and knew how to use a gun, or a knife, or a club, or tie a knot, etc.).
I’m WAY newer to blogging than to Family Court.
On the other hand, unlike FC, my blog doesn\’t imply that it\’s saving families, or even serving them (as in \”Family Court Services.\” Nor do I hope that somehow this will orchestrate a brave, new world. In fact years ago, when I was hauled in (no, it wasn\’t voluntary), my venues were limited to, and my focus on: my immediate family, profession(s), colleagues (when I still had them), and the communities I lived and worked in. I got on-line to email some friends from time to time. I wasn\’t fighting to find out where my rights went, and (because I wasn\’t in the habit of breaking laws or court orders to get my way in life) I wasn\’t desperately trying to search what my state code called that last despicable act. Or how come it only took 20 minutes to change my kid\’s futures, that had been set since an early age towards college, with scholarships, ANY college they set their sites on, within reason.
I would like to talk about what some of these myths do, that allow decent upstanding law-abiding, non-wife-beating, hard-working parents (and individuals) to keep clear of these halls and not trouble their sleep about what happens inside them . Let’s Get Honest about what the myth that justice is happening in behind these closed doors is costing the country, and your communities, overall.
Recently (Spring 2009), the US closed lots of schools in a panic over swine flu. Clearly someone understands the concept of “quarantine” for the general public safety. Then they decided to open them again. How about opening some of the closed doors in courtrooms? The people’s changes and humiliations / /wins / losses //responses to these (trauma, or as it sometimes, I”m sorry to say, turns out, kidnappings // femicides/homicide/suicides // poverty afterwards is already in public view.
So, “general public,” gentle readers, the family court leper colony is not working — for the family, or for the general public. However, it IS working quite well, thank you, for the type of personnel who designed it to start with (primarily, in the USA, in Southern California). And YOU (if you are Joe common bloke, Ann single working woman, or Mrs. Joe & Ann Smith, gainfully employed. Or (I hear now Maine is the 5th state in the US), Mr. & Mr. Joe and Harry Blow and Ms. & Ms. Ann and Sydney BestFriends. It may not really be about gender, only, in the courts either. I was a Mr. & Mrs., and prior to separation, we paid too, unaware of others’ trauma.
Any effort to reform it, should this be the goal, will have to address for whom this venue IS working just fine. To track this, try some of my links, or do your own research. I wouldn’t suggest calling all men bad (OR good) or all women, and the culture in general, a bunch of femininazi, male-bashing, sex-deprived (or sex-crazed, as case may be) misfits. That’s generally speaking not helpful.
What may be more helpful is to realize that large sectors of populace do actually believe those things. Some of them say it with Ph.D. language (“fatherlessness” — a.k.a. single mothers, case in point — are to blame for society’s ills.). Can you recognize the same talk, said in “expert” language and footnoted with a bunch of experts who believe the same thing? Then you’re getting a handle on the picture.
NOTE on TONE: “Related Blogs,” to left, some of them have a different tone than I want here. But they ALSO still have facts (news reports, laws, cases, etc.) there too. And they have a right to respond as expressively as they want to. Many or all of the bloggers there typically, lost custody of children to a batterer or a child-moleester, and sometimes as a direct consequence for having reported it. Some of them, as I heard, have been in jail for failing to be able, after that, come up with enough child support (we’re talking women). Some of the women I’ve met recently have gone to international courts for safety, and they/we are also aware of other groups going to the same international courts for different purposes.
So they have a right to be pissed off and say “forget you” or “I’m pissed off” or THIS (see image) is what I think of that group of demagogues. The point of my blog is dialogue (hopefully) and taking a close look at the players who are laughing the way to the bank (metaphorically) while the cats and dogs are spitting, hissing, biting, and scratching in the dust. I hope to keep the intensity level just enough to keep you (meaning “us”) VERY uncomfortable with inaction, but not so lit up that only discharging emotion action takes place.
Speaking up IS action, and particularly if one has been subject to violence already for doing so.
Identifiable causes, and identifiable solutions exist to the problems of familycourtmatters. These solutions are emotionally painful and would require some businesses that profit from our pain to find another source of referral, or another line of work. I suggest they be required to work with tangible production, who have manipulated people as if they were putty to accept the dysfunction — but let’s hope do not require bloodshed. And bloodshed IS already happening as a direct consequence of the hostility, lack of personal restraint, and level of frustration (BUT, it’s still the lack of restraint, I say) that is stirred up in these venues. So, see some of the “related blogs” to left. These women have been at it longer than me, and they have done their homework and I believe lived it too. I’m talking being stripped down naked when they went in for help. The problem is international in scope.
I was a hardworking (female, single mother) bloke, too, until I attempted to renew a standing domestic violence restraining order, simply in order to participate better in the “hard-working parent” part. I held no personal animosity against my children’s father, I just was unreconciled to the battering, abuse thing. Other than that, he was allowed to see his children quite frequently, just not continue to assault me, in front of them. I’m no criminal, and wasn’t a bitter, etc., etc. Mom. However, I had recently and VERY belatedly gotten some legal help setting boundaries, obviously an issue where there has been violence, and there was a major amount of cleanup and rebuilding. I needed my personal space for sure. This is a little hard to establish when one’s partner is more focused on his “manhood” than your “person-hood.”
Now I have been in the courts, shortly here, ALMOST as many years as I was in in-home, upfront abuse. I think this perspective should be discussed. I also want to speak to some of the noble people who have kept their noses clean by leaving justice to the experts, and mythically believing that, even if it DOESN’T happen, it’s not going to affect them personally.
It already has.
BUT — can we talk, blog, comment, post links, favorite books, and simply converse, without the skip the hate talk, pompous vague assertions, and ex-spurt** opinions, but
just see if (or is it \”whether\”)? there are still a few good men, women,
– – and children (children can blog, right?) —
who can skillfully toss out some metaphors, paradigms, puns, and maybe whimsical analogies
for me (and y\’all) to juggle around, look at them from underneath,
see if they have some weight, or bounce, or whether they dissipate into thin air under
their own hot, gaseous contents. This might even be fun.
Venom is not welcome. Biting sarcasm is fine. Insults too (it’s hard to be sarcastic without insulting SOMEone), but no threats, no advocacy to violence OR any illegal activity (I LIKE my blog, thank you!). Name-calling should be fleeting, at least skillful, and only, if a tall, as a lead in to something worthwhile to say. Remember, I moderate the comments.
Get personal — and speak for yourself: I FEEL, I\’VE NOTICED, I BELIEVE, but not personally nasty. Don\’t behind behind the curtain of plurals, vague assertions that can\’t be disproved, pronounced with a finality. This is not the place for the Wizard of Oz, but a bunch of Totos. We will bark back and expose your backside. Take credit for having a genuine personal experience apart from the gang you happen to belong to. I\’ll do the same.
**Ex-spurts are known by that action — spurting forth publications, opinions, pronouncements (DVDs, Conferences, and more). Did a conference save a life? Maybe. I’m generally a little wary when the people pronouncing on families can afford the DVDs and conferences, and the subject families, after having been “fixed” by the same bunch, can’t. Where’s the due process in THAT?
Forming organizations, alliances, and nonprofits to stop what the other nonprofits are doing wrong, or compensate for whatever government isn\’t doing to their pleasing.
The real experts have had the experiences BEFORE they start publishing, promoting, and starting branches of study that didn\’t exist before a pet pre-occupation became a profession. I\’d rather SEE an expert (at his or her work) than HEAR one any day.
And I do music. . . . . or Did. My music survived only XX years parallel to lawsuits, accusations, family rifts, threats, stalking etc. I’m here still at XX + about 2 years post-music, and still sweeping up. Like any Mom who has better things to do with (what remains of) her time, and always did, I am interested in stopping the mess-making at its source.
I plan to do plenty of spurting forth of words here — but unlike those in family court (I mean, the denizens, not the nomads passing through),
I am not trying to use these words to separate you from your children — or your money. Just maybe some of your time. I have no style sheet. Remember the advice of Tim Ferriss — you can get ex-spurt status on any number of things in under 4 weeks — it\’s more a matter of credibility. On the other hand, you can say the same thing for a decade or two,
I have no outline. I simply intend to talk, promote my links and books, and see what\’s around the bend here. Don\’t be too rigid except where it counts — (no, fellas, not that part!) — on civil rights. On matters of law, and fair play. And on the facts. There are plenty of ways to skin a cat, but whose idea was that to start with?
There are also many ways to abuse – – very few, that I\’ve found, to stop it — but \”family court\” sure doesn\’t appear to be ONE of them.
Possibly removing the financial / emotional incentives for continued abuse.
What do you say?
Please make fun of some euphemisms. Speak in short words. Or long words. Just don\’t bore us with something we\’ve already been drenched in – – like \”alienation,\” or insult my intelligence by pronouncing a truth that is your personal truth only as if it were one of those universal ones, like (at least to date), water is essential to life. Having two parents in the home, I\’m sorry to say, is not, not always. I know plenty of very, very dysfunctional two-parent homes. I came from one, and so did my erst-while, ex-cohabitant spouse. I\’ll verify he\’s got some severe issues, and I\’ve read in my pleadings, this is also held to be true of me. So, one exception disproves a universal rule, let\’s get (real).
Written by Let's Get Honest|She Looks It Up
March 20, 2009 at 6:21 AM
Posted in Context of Custody Switch, Domestic Violence vs Family Law, History of Family Court, Mandatory Mediation, Uncategorized, Vocabulary Lessons
Tagged with "We had no idea!", Brave Young Adults, domestic violence, Due process, DV, obfuscation, retaliation for reporting, social commentary, U.S. Govt $$ hard @ work..



“Greater Emphasis on Shared Parental Responsibility” (Australian Family 2006 Law Amendment) “in the best interest of kids” gets them killed, again.
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In this post, I am reacting to a story which will be posted separately, although excerpts are in my post, and a link at the bottom.
I do not know “Jen Jewel Brown,” but the writing is compassionate and detailed, not a polemic, or a dry newspaper report.
This type of writing — about this international problem — engaging attention, mind, and emotions, prompted me to respond, at length. Because of the length, the post itself is separate.
Thank you, “Jen Jewel Brown” for the coverage of this matter, in tone that engages the emotions, which these should, but doesn’t I feel manipulate them. This is good writing. Thanks also to the Mom who brought this to my attention on-line. I do compare notes with women in other countries at time, in hopes that we can do something to stem the tide of child-sacrifices on the altar of “Family.”
My “target audience” is those “puzzled” by the failures of family law and disturbed, but perhaps not enough so, by why the experts trusted with fixing these things aren’t succeeding. I do not speak from the “puzzled” perspective, at all. My recommendations, and appeals are at the end of the post.
I don’t know whether 3 whole posts should be dedicated to one incident, but there is a “to the contrary” response, blaming the family law system for the casualties (i.e., deaths) because it’s “brutal” to men. This post has been a half day’s (volunteer, incidentally) work, and the other will have to wait, but I will post the link blaming these children’s deaths (and others) on family law’s “brutal” anti-father bias, and those damn domestic violence folk.
(This hails from “WATODAY.com” — Breaking News from Perth and West Australia (and was published the week before “Mothers’ Day” in the USA).
Jen Jewel Brown
Suffer the Little Children:
_______________________
But first, a quiz: did you notice, too?
Does anything seem amiss in the following description?
Try and picture it before reading further….
A. Does this scenario seem believable, and consistent with other accounts you may have read in the MSM (mainstream media), or statistics you may have studied, about women’s violence towards men (being comparable).
B. Have you ever heard a case reported where a woman chased down a man in anger, calling him nonstop for one and a half hours (as he was fleeing with his kids), breaking a court restraining order, and still being angry enough to punch his mother in the face? Or one that fits this pattern? (picture it….)
? ? ?
To “A.” The correct answer should be “yes.” This does not seem to fit the pattern. And in this case, it shouldn’t —
To “B.” My answer, which may vary with personal experience, for me, is NO. I haven’t. (Groups such as “Mens Rights Agency” etc. would say, it could go either way. But this is the description I read. Where is the description of a woman doing this? AND — — getting away with being released after arrest to go and do it again?)
Above, I just switched the names, genders, and parties on another (yet another) blunder of Family Law Amended in 2006 to reflect greater empahsis on shared parental responsibility.” This blunder wasn’t just one single blunder, but a whole series of them resulting in the eventual death of two innocent. Infants. In their best interests, of course. He chased her, she didn’t chase him. He punched HER mother’s nose, and not vice versa. HE, even after this terrorizing incident, was released from jail the next morning.
She then (it seems) endured a five-hour-long flight, with her mother, from this man, only six days after one infant was born, and couldn’t handle it. She had a breakdown and was hospitalized en rte. I can see why her mother might have fled, too.
This is how the family courts responded to that knowledge:
I don’t know what to do, just me alone, about the nonstop, nonsensical, and unnecessary murder of little kids as a logical consequences of illogical thinking dominating the family courts — not just in my home country (which is not Australia, as below), but around the world. But I am doing some things (including reporting), and have some suggestions below of what doesn’t work, and possible different approach to take, when going about to “help,” other than picking a side to believe and joining it, or staying “neutral” or remaining “puzzled.”
I can only assert, and I have some experiential basis to compare these two on, religion, and family law, that the family courts worldwide have become a religion to themselves, and have all the characteristics of a VERY cruel one.
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(DIGRESSION:)
In wondering who took leave of whose senses when, (i.e., in trying to analyze this), I think we need to also take a more honest look at whether we really want nation-wide educational systems that take kids away from families in order to protect them from the ignorance, supposedly in their families. Both of these systems are based on similar premises of helping in competent parents and rescuing children from ignorance and illiteracy. In the U.S., the outcome of this premise, apart from an ever-increasing budget demanded, factionalism within the ranks, and this region also, education, becoming both an industry and a political endorsement or virtual “death-warrant” depending on one’s constituency — it ALSO has resulted in a literacy rate (the very thing it proposed to fix) trailing the developed world, a populace of people that, on graduating from 8th grade school (around 13/14 years old), still can’t read, but CAN get pregnant, or get someone else pregnant. They can also get shot at, sexually abused by teachers, or locked down if a rumor of someone with a gun (or someone with a real gun) comes on or near the campus. They are the target of pharmaceutical corporations and text book corporations, and all kinds of political factions. Currently, in California, they are again arguing over whether a parent can “opt out” for their kids of “LGBT” training — in the same region where, in the family law, another paradigm reigns, that each child needs both parents, and supposedly mothers have an unfair advantage. (Was that same-sex parents, or not??). These school graduates, then class-sorted, and intelligence-tested, are coming out, and some of them making it to college (others not), and now we have family law systems teaching adults (both middle-aged adult AND young adults) “parenting.” Well, what where they doing for the first eight years of government help?
So I do tend to look, both as to cost and results, at both of these systems as related. I am wondering, how have we somehow gotten politicians who can’t think straight, or a general public who can’t discern what’s going on with the politicians? There are indeed many questions. I also note that the U.S. is already one of the highest per capital prison nations around (I heard this, anyhow, as to “developed” nations. If this is development, let’s under-develop for a while, eh?) The effect being that prison is not exactly a deterrent to batterers because the places are crowded already!
(END of THAT DIGRESSION, AT LEAST). . . .
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I have spent close to two decades dealing with abuse, up front first (at home) and thereafter, trying to be female and leave it, with children. Once Internet became accessible, and I regained a bit more freedom to choose who I associated with, I have also been researching and connecting with other men and women both, while also seeing how my personal case progressed through attempting to retain a standing restraining order (i.e., renew it), and how someone coached the person I needed to restrain to dodge it into Family Court, which I can only describe as like “Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass.” (I read this book often during my childhood). It is as though all the people in there are on psychotropic medicines, but being a world unto themselves, are looking at you as the oddball.
One of the most serious mistakes a family law innocent can take is to take ANY of its denizens seriously. To take them at their words, which are many-syllabic and I say, infantile in rationale. (That includes innocent observers, too….)
Another serious mistake is failure to realize how seriously they take themselves (meaning, each other)(not your laws, or their rules of court, or their professional code of ethics, for the most part), and their inherent authority and what tools are at their disposal to make sure you do, or else! (See recent post, where I discuss “kneeling” in august reverence here).
The SOONER you seriously divest yourself of assuming that terms used bear any relationship to common usage (outside this venue), the better chances of success you will have. I am a literary sort of person, and invested a lot of time (after successive failures to win a point in this venue) in reading the laws and rules of court. My opponent didn’t piddle around with this — at all — but went straight for the emotional heartbeat of whatever authority (he) was in front of, and adjusted his story to accommodate. AND WAS RESPECTED FOR THIS! He didn’t bother with piddling matters like consistency, truth, or even evidence. He figured out what resonated and ad-libbed an court order violated himself into being rewarded with total custody of our daughters, no meaningful contact with their mother, and no child support obligations for him — in effect, none of the past due, and the current one promptly stopped. This dysfunctional system rewarded criminal behavior. Welcome to “la-la-land,” quite similar to what I had hoped to leave, many years ago, and peaceably rebuild separate lives. (Oh well!)
I don’t think or operate like this, in general as a teacher, a mother, or a professional. Every profession I’ve been involved in to date has some set of principles which, if repeatedly violated, results in failure of the endeavor. There ARE operational principles in family law too. The thing is, understanding what they are.
One clue is to understand as quickly as possible what Family Law Courts are NOT. ONE “what they are not” is clearly “in the best interests of the children” or the general public, as far as I can tell. Get comfortable with Upside Down World (as did Alice in WOnderland) or get out. As fast as possible. I believe the same thing applies for an abusive relationship — the LESS invested said abuser is in the relationship, the safer everyone SHOULD be. Family Law, is being amended, however, to tip that scale backwards.
Not just “seeing through a glass, darkly” but literally in reverse — ‘THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS’:
For those who don’t know the book, here’s three references (all to URLs), the first (only) with the classic illustrations of Alice unnaturally elongated, and then squished into a small box. The message is altered perspectives. I read this book through repeatedly as girl (we were not a TV family…), often in one sitting on a weekend. My legs would fall asleep, an odd sensation I thought interesting, and I knew that polishing off the book would do result in a numb leg. That’s how fascinating it was, with its characters, and Alice’s dialogues with herself, and them, getting her bearings, and finally getting out of this dream (or altered state).
The difference between “Alice’s” adventures and entering the world of “family law” (in practically any country, I’m coming to believe) is that it is unbelievably different from inside than outside. The other difference is, some people do not emerge outside triumphant as this heroine did. Some children never “age out of the system” because someone kills them first. Or one (or both) of their parents. (Are the killers of the other parent half men and half women? Look it up yourself, not from a mother’s group or a father’s group, but from a more authoritative source!)
Others become sexual objects, property, or weapons of revenge for others, or money for third parties, although eventually they do reach age 18, forever changed.
The characters, standards, and self-referential dogma of these circles exacerbates prior situations, or maybe incites a few more, while continuing to enunciate, evaluate, proclaim, and judge situations as if the characters judging were the standard, and the intruders, the alien oddballs that needed a sharp lesson in which way is up.
So, Get a Flavor of “Alice,” for Reference (Curiouser and Curiouser). This figure will help your understanding of the domain of family law and associated realms driven by social sciences (and the funding thereof) more, I feel, than a glossary of words, which taken out of context, might be misinterpreted to actually mean what they say:
From a New York Times blog on migraines (apparently the author of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland) had these:
1.
“The man who gave us “Alice in Wonderland” suffered from migraine. He was also a mathematician, a clergyman, a photographer, and a wit. He was self conscious about a stammer and may have had sexual proclivities for young girls. It is impossible to know exactly what role migraine played in his creative work.” (itself a commentary that skill in various professions is not an indicator of innocence or guilt in other areas)
2.
And another, with an excerpt, shows a few of the characters, and Alice answering back. She tries to retain some of her former judgment, common sense, and attempts to make the others adhere to a few rules, but each time has her words twisted. Perhaps this novel is a more accurate relation of what it’s like to deal with people who have something else on their brains, when yours is safety/solvency/justice (and all the usual things one tends to associate with justice venues). Alice is the newcomer here to the Mad Tea Party. THIS is as close a description of what it’s like in these Family Law Venues as anything else. Note: when she emerges, no one else knew what she went through.
and, from Salon.com, someone’s commentary on it, recalled from her childhood:
3.
the “children’s tale” was in brilliant ways coded to be read by adults and was in fact an English classic, a universally acclaimed intellectual tour de force and what might be described as a psychological/anthropological dissection of Victorian England. It seems not to have occurred to me that the child-Alice of drawing rooms, servants, tea and crumpets and chess, was of a distinctly different background than my own. I must have been the ideal reader: credulous, unjudging, eager, thrilled. I knew only that I believed in Alice, absolutely.
(AUSTRALIAN) Family Law Act amended in 2006.
Excerpt:
WHY? The story below dates back to 2004! (Again, two little kids were killed by a man who had violence and punishment of his wife on his mind already, had been acting it, had been demonstrating already his disregard of court orders — i.e., placing himself above the law – and had been arrested for doing so, which only made him still madder, and less in compliance. This upside down-a-rabbit-hole and Through the Looking Glass logic (itself detached from threats of being murdered, or having one’s kids murdered, or having to live with — and AROUND — that fear, somehow) is NOT “evidence-based” or “In the child’s best interests.”
This fear of also trespassing on an idenfitied batterer’s civil rights overrode the innocent party’s ones.
The court order making this possible happened because the mindset that prompted the 2006 amendment was already in play, obviously, that even if a man chases down his wife punches her mother, and does things that would put him in jail, and staying there longer, if done to a man, or where a previous relationship had not existed)
Excerpt:
I DISAGREE. I THINK THIS VIEW GIVES TOO MUCH BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO JUDGES.
IF JUDGES ARE IGNORANT OF THE OBVIOUS, THEN THIS SHOWS A LACK OF QUALIFICATION TO JUDGE.
THERE ARE REASONS THEY LISTEN TO PSYCHOLOGISTS, AND THIS _- AND NOT “EDUCATING” THEM ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS IN ORDER.
IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE. I”M A SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEVERE. I DI NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES TO INFORM MYSELF ABOUT IT WHILE IN THE SITUATION. WHEN I GOT OUT, AND THEN WAS PUSHED INTO FAMILY COURT, THE FIRST THING I DID WAS START GETTING INFORMED. IF I COULD DO THIS, ON A DIMINISHING BUDGET AND AS A SINGLE MOTHER, AND PERSIST IN DOING SO (FOR YEARS) THAN EVEN A JUDGE WITH A VERY BUSY SCHEDULE COULD CHOOSE TO LISTEN TO MORE THAN ONE VIEWPOINT. SO COULD WHOEVER AMENDED THE FAMILY LAW OF 2006 TO PRODUCE HIGHER RISK OF STORIES LIKE THIS.
There are number of wise courses of action (hard choices, all of them) which will help those enacting and judging poorly in situations that result in family deaths (unnecessarily) to understand the FIRST priority is to preserve physical life of individuals (that’s what criminal laws, in part, are for), and SECOND, if then, to MAKE DAD HAPPIER BY MORE TIME WITH THE CHILDREN — BUT ONLY IF HE CAN BEHAVE LIKE IN AN ADULT FIRST.
Another option, which was proposed over a decade ago by a writer on NOMAS (National Organization of Men Against Sexism — which, FYI, this family law act as amended seems to be, as it was addressed primarily to giver fathers (not mothers) more contact with their kids after divorce). One might be a rigid and STRICT sorting system to discourage violence against women, which when kids are present, is a horrible role model: (A) Case Flow. You commit violence, you lose access to your kids — PERMANENTLY. This is called “deterrent.”
Then there would be nothing much to discuss in family law except distribution of any property. And I personally don’t care if anyone who assaults an intimate partner even TWICE, let alone in such awful manners, is financially penalized either. Why shouldn’t he be? The devil didn’t make him do it. His unemployment didn’t make him do it. SHE didn’t make him do it. Abuse, like ignorance, is a choice. It’s a two year old in a grown up body trying to make the world fit his (or her) own definition of how the world should be, and making sure he is the center of attention (via tantrum, throwing things, etc.), until the world IS changed to accommodate.
Maybe it’s time, and maybe there is a way (in our respective countries) we can get the conversation away from sick social science theories (which many participants, FYI, may not agree with) AND bribery (job -referrals, cronyism, or whatever it took to amend Australia’s Family Law in 2006 to better reflect what’s happening in America, which, FYI, we cannot here keep up with the incidents that are quite similar to the one below, where “Dalton” kills his own offspring because he’s mad. Or can’t get his own way, even AFTER he gets custody. “It’s about control, dude.”
The alternative is to penalize the rest of society, and especially the target. The alternative is NOT to, as we do in the US, “promote healthy marriage” and then leave doing so up to characters that think like this! (See “Mad Hatter Tea Party.”). The alternative is a nonstop, constant drain of time, and transfer of wealth — from the general public, and also from one parent to another, or from both parents to attorneys (and psychologists, etc.). The alternative is a total drain on public funds that are needed for more noble causes.
But speaking in public and anywhere else as though judges really are uninformed on the fact that domestic violence occurs, and that disturbed parents sometimes kill their wives, themselves, bystanders, relatives, and responding police officers in the context of a woman — that is called “enabling” talk. It makes excuses. Take my word, or ask someone else. Good grief, get real! Like Alice in Wonderland, who found herself there, and conversed with the various characters, and emerged with her self-respect intact back into the real world, it is necessary after frequenting such discussions, to get back to reality. This is NOT about justice!
(I know of only ONE single high-profile case reported in my area where the killer was a woman except ONE, in the many years I have been watching and noticing this, since I left my own situation. That case has some very unique circumstances to both the marriage, and the custody hearings, and I also know the judge involved). She tried to defend herself, and went to jail. It sold a lot of newspapers. I have also seen the countenance, attitudes, and behaviors of family court personnel in the context of some extremely high-profile, headline making murders, one of them a triple murder, in the context of a woman leaving a batterer. We had a man who killed his wife on a weekend exchange, with kids present, buried her body, and was eventually convicted without the body!, but plea-bargained himself down by promising to show the police the body. Not until he was actually convicted did he change his “I didn’t do it!” story for a minute.)
We had another one where a man shot the cousin (in the face) because he couldn’t find the wife, who he was after. In the process, he also tore up a business front and threatened his (brave) adult daughter, who tried to get the gun from him. We had a woman who had been cautious and attempting to keep a low profile, but she went to church on a weekday morning, apparently before work. Her ex ambushed her, gunned her down in front of witnesses. There IS no safe place, it seems, when a mad “ex” is intent on getting even, and obeying laws is the LAST thing at certain times on the brain. I referred to that last case in my court hearing (same city), loud, and clearly. My comment was deleted from (never made) the court transcript. In this hearing (if I have which one right), I had PTSD triggered in recounting the last time I had to interact with my ex, which itself had so frightened me, I swore internally that I would never, the rest of my life, put myself in a position where I had to see this man in person, I could not handle it. I only had to see him a few more times (THAT year), and stalking has been an issue, and caused me to reframe my livelihood and daily lifestyle ever since, negatively so. It has also put a severe damper on my plans to assert any future legal rights, as safety is now a definite issue.
How’d you like to make those choices? Leave your kids with a known batterer who won’t obey court orders (any of them, basically) and has not been held accountable by any authority. And do this after many years in court hearings, and after many years in domestic violence.
My case was nowhere near as awful as this woman Fehring, who in 2004 lost her kids after trying to save them (but family law orders curtailed her ability to do so), and I’m struggling. She is speaking out, and so are many others, in various countries. We are definitely struggling on many fronts, and we don’t want domestic violence to go down another generation!
We also (I deal with enough mothers to say I speak for at least many of them) cannot afford the luxury of believing these things persist because of lack of judicial EDUCATION. It’s more a lack of judicial BACKBONE and ETHICS. And it’s not only the judges (although they as the ones signing orders, command the most obivous authority). We hope that people who are not traumatized themselves, or still have some source of income to sustain themselves, and whose children are NOT at risk for speaking out, to FIRST divest themselves of a few myths:
The judicial and legal and custody evaluator (etc.) circles are indeed capable of being educated, and they ARE. If you want to know “by whom” (rather than continue to wonder, after the next incident, “why can’t we get it through?” to these circles), see other pages on my cite, or a few other links I’ve recommended. Study the organizations, grants, funding, and legal structure in YOUR system. Study also who is pre-empting (it happens, trust me) organizations that once existed to help battered women, or protect them, or advocate, and see who is funding them. For a dialogue on this, see “justicewomen.org.” It’s the best explanation I’ve run across. See also California NOW (CANOW.org) web page on the family court system — it has a history of organizations that is a clue. See National Alliance for Family Court Justice, which connects the dots better than most places I’ve seen (there is a lot of text to process, but DO SO!).
Dedicate a time to becoming an expert yourself. Then learn to distinguish between experts.
And follow the money trail. Money talks.
WHo was this Dalton man, that murdered kids? It appears he had a high profile. Maybe we should, as a public, restrict our adulation to people whose personal lives measure up. If people hold a public profile, then their personal lives count. Why shouldn’t they? These are means by which someone who has been voted into an office or appointed to one, can be judged.
You cannot have justice when the doors are closed. It is not going to happen.
You cannot have justice when you don’t know who’s funding and appointing the judges.
it is very difficult in our current lifestyles (I speak for my acquaintance with the US, and I know a good deal of it, particularly as an educator and arts professional) to find time to study and know what our government is doing. I found (personally) the educational system here to be the greatest timesoaker for my own children and myself, and I also witnessed this same system in poor and in rich neighborhoods. My perception of the justice in the richer community is that it was far harder on women. The general level of violent crime appears to be kept down more by the affluence, but this does not reflect, that I can tell, a drop in the domestic violence crime, or even femicides. This is a different type of crime than street crime.
Even the Bible has an entire Book called “Judges” and directly ties the welfare of the nation to the ethics (in the context, of Israel’s religion, which for them was a theocracy). When the judges screwedup, the whole nation suffered. It’s no different today..
I do not know of any other way than enough of the public — or well-positioned public — coming out of what I call the collective “trance” that “government” means “good guys” and that our job in life is to just go about our business and hope that they are going about theirs properly. My faith says we are to pray for these people, but with prayer comes a duty to watchfulness. This will help you become a more fully alert — and helpful to your neighbors, next time they go “through it” — citizen. It is, really, more important than how successful you are in your profession, I’d say. How successful is it necessary to be to have “made” it?
We also need to listen to older generations talk about the transitions they have been through, and resist institutions that separate old from child-raising from young, except in highly mediated situations.
Well, this has become a post, so the story I am blogging about will be in the next one. . . .
Please wake up, and help join men and women who are studying these topics. LISTEN to the stories of mothers who have lost their kids to violence, or to no-contact or supervised orders only with as much interest as you LISTEN to the stories and blogs of men complaining about the shoe being on their foot. LISTEN also (I posted yesterday) the parallel stories about the “state” removing children from competent parents. The social “science” paradigm is a dangerously presumptive one. It applies general principles, often arrived at without proper input from the people they affect, does so whimsically and unevenly.
The instrument itself is too blunt and too powerful. We need more stories like Alice In Wonderland, and more symbolic reference points to tell the truth about the family courts, and cut through the “therapeutic jurisprudence” to recognize where jurisprudence is itself iatrogenic.
We need to start looking back and talking back. It’s a commitment, for sure, but look at what’s at stake.
It will require losing some of one’s time, and probably personal peace, unless you are carrying it on the inside.
I hope some of this post sank in, as I wrote it in one sitting and entirely in response to a single, tragic, story (among many) that family law apparatus in Australia chose to ignore. Someone has to address the conflict of interest between criminal and civil and family law in your country.
If you want to know where a lot of this came from, it is, I believe, from an organization in the US, which has been proselytizing like Jehovah’s Witness, only knocking on different doors. They have money, they have (self-referential, but still it has an impact) prestige, they have technical superiority to MOST women’s websites, or DV websites I’ve seen. You cannot judge the truth or falsehood of a viewpoint by how glitzy its website is. The one I most respect, currently, has the least “glitz,” but I have spoken personally with the owner and checked out the facts. This blog is not glitzy, but show me where else on the web someone is posting the links to the funding, AND the organizations behind the funding, AND some of the key Presidential (US) letters driving this. And I’m not done yet.
Look at the “AFCC” Association of Family and Conciliation Courts, a group that was run initially out of the Los Angeles County Courthouse address, but illegally so, and not incorporated as an entity (according to my single reading of this) for many, many years, until they were caught, and finally did. This means that they cheated the American taxpayers by failing to pay taxes. Money laundering appears to have been involved. Initially custody evaluators got free tuition (to seminars) and attorneys did not. Judges taught some of them. This group has CONSISTENTLY ignored that “PAS” is junk science, and ignored the published criminal prosecutors reading of it, too. If they had been operating in the case of Fehring v. Dalton, they would have recommended ordered Ms. Fehring into a parenting plan to adjust her unreasonable fear of her exhusband, and if she didn’t fork over her kids for visitation, they woudl have jailed HER, not him. They are highly influential. Their PAS man was a known pedophile who eventually committed suicide. We are STILL in our courtrooms having male judges caught with their pants down or their hands up their secretary’s blouse, making her life hell, or judges taking kickbacks to send innocent juveniles away (I just recited only: NJ, TX, PA examples. The NJ judge had a porno collection that I couldn’t even stand to read about, when I heard. He flew to Russia to have sex with a boy, and as I recall, had it filmed). Women judges are/can be just as dishonest, cruel, and callous in their decisions. I have sat under some of them. It’s not JUST about gender, it’s about the system of family law, and the class, and information, and associations, gap between this system and the general public.
Then go read their history.
Then go look at their pamphlets and some of the personnel. (I did). This group is international in scope. It appears that different countries have similar type groups with other names.
Other issues include retaliation by groups and associations upon ethical and honest judges and professionals. This retaliation can be as severe as it is upon a parent leaving abuse, or a parent reporting child abuse.
MOST OF US do not want to think that people who THINK like this could be running not only our local, but also some of our national policies. However, the fact is, that any position of power is going to attract people with noble purpose, and corrupt people. It is also going to attract people who THINK their purpose is noble, but will commit crime, do secret deals, and ride roughshod over anyone who gets in their way. This is what I would call a “godless” perspective — if you can get away with something, so much the better. It also views certain classes of people as inferior BECAUSE of their class. (This attitude is also common religious circles too, obviously).
THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, IF THIS IS NOT YOU, THEN WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBLITY? ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP A FEW ILLUSIONS (AND THEREBY HELP) or ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE JUDGING A BOOK BY ITS COVER, A PERSON BY HIS (OR HER) GENDER OR MARITAL STATUS, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT’S OK FOR A DOUBLE-STANDARD OF JUSTICE TO BE THE RULE, NOT THE EXCEPTION.
ARE YOU WILLING TO TRY TO DEFANG THE “TOTALITARIAN” ELEMENT IN YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE IT TAKES YOUR CHILDREN (AND MEANS TO; EAT, SHELTER, AND DEFEND YOURSELF) UNDER THE PREMISE THAT “You People” cannot protect yourselves from yourselves?
Any group that claims it is going to eradicate violence, crime, murder, kidnappings, theft, and similar awful behaviors, from the face of the planet is narcissistic. This ain’t likely to happen. I would not follow anyone piping that tune. Newflash: Obama ain’t going to.
I would similar not follow any crew that promises it’s going to raise the national total educational level to competitive (on my dollar) until it’s already shown some significant successes. SHOWN them, not just proclaimed them to exist where they don’t, and out of context.
I have some perspective to say this: I was a top performer at a top suburban public high school, according to its standards, and KNOW that I was bored in school. I have worked in a variety of schools and attended school in another country. I have also (unfortunately) hung around a lot of educators in my time (not my first choice of associates, I’d rather hang out with someone passionate about WHAT they teach rather than HOW (everyone else) should be teaching). I then raised my own daughters in tough c ircumstances to a level of all-round excellence, and watched an educator who had never been a parent come after me, having mentally deleted both my own personal history (which was known to include violence and professional-level teaching ability, and performance) at the time. There was no way a rational person could have considered me under-educated or incompetent to raise my own kids. Only an Alice in Wondcrland character, who had his brain filled of theory and belief such that there was no room for input (from the eyes, ears, and neighborhood schools, etc.) would have come to this conclusion.
I was faced with an anomaly and had to make up my mind how to view this. In understanding a few more facts (which I didn’t have at the time) and continuing to listen to the changes of tone, language (and a fast “flip”) in behavior from this person, and put this into the larger contextt, I came to the conclusion that ONE thing that allowed such a person to come up with such an idea was the educational theories he’d (just recently) been exposed to, without sufficient humbling experience to challenge them — such as becoming a parent, or dealing with enough of them personally, to get some insight).
Which comes to another thing to be studied in family law: Australia’s system has a history. If you’re local, keep posting it! Talk it up. Send a clear message that it is being looked at and expected to hold to a standard. It is best, I think, to get this information OUT before there are gag orders on it.
There are organizations and associations that screen, teach and certify people to practice in MOST professions. These need to be looked at. I have. I have seen what it takes tobecome a “family law specialist” in my state, and this explains to me where the “gap” is, and why, and why when I go into court again, should this be required, I will not, I am sure tolerate any family law attorney to represent me. Why? They are not self-aware enough of personal biases. I am not sure whether I would even want such input in preparing information, because to date, the few attorneys I’ve been in front of (or hired) have all encouraged me to downplay and sign away, compromise, and bargain things that were non-negotiable in my case. This is how we get sold down the river at times — lack of information.
Even then, I’d say, “well, you can experiment on someone else’s children, thank you — and pay for it yourself, or they can pay.” These are simply Pied Pipers. Don’t dance to that tune. The fairy tale (if you know it) exists for a reason, and we’ve come to an age when I think those old fairy tales are a lot more reliable indicators of truth than, say:
“Evidence of Adapation of Parenting Programs to Father Engagement” (or whatever the forgettable phrase was on THAT grant opportunity)
This post has not been proofread (and probably will not), you just got a piece of my mind and heart. I appeal to people who say they are concerned and want to help, to do so in an intelligent, and experience-informed manner.
If a fire is burning that is destroying homes, building, and costing lives, talk to some firefighters! Find out what’s feeding it, and how to smother the principle needs of any fire.
Fuel, Oxygen, Heat (as the type of fire may be or may not, or a “chemical” burn).
And figure out, if you have a faith in a supernatural being, your relationship with Him, Her, It, or Them.
Buckle down and get ready for the ride. You will need a seat belt for sure.
The subject matter that prompted this post is in the next one, although this is the link:
Suffer the Little Children– to reach Adulthood!
“On March 17, 2004, in a 14-minute hearing, the Brisbane Family Court gave interim custody of the infant Patrick and his sister Jessie to Jayson Dalton, former One Nation candidate and long-term batterer.”
My next post will post this.
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Written by Let's Get Honest|She Looks It Up
May 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Posted in Cast, Script, Characters, Scenery, Stage Directions, History of Family Court, Organizations, Foundations, Associations NGO Hybrids, Vocabulary Lessons
Tagged with "We had no idea!", Australia, custody, domestic violence, family annihilation, family law, social commentary