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Michigan Matters (In Maddening Detail, formerly underneath “A Word to the Wise for Mothers…”)

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I don’t have time to reformat this. However, the first link I believe is valuable — it shows travel expenses for DHS employees. A survey of where they are being flown is a clue to MULTI-state national conferences of public servants. Post is in rough shape, but full of revelations (details) relevant to us all.

The pattern of nationalization and regionalization (again, as financially supported by taxpayers — whether from Michigan, or Federal, or Both), is definitely maddening. At what point does this trail get so complex, that it’s clear no one is going to navigate it?

Nevertheless, there are still clues. First of all, when a Governor declares it’s National Fatherhood month, that is talking about getting grants, and redistributing. …. Another issue (not dealt with here, but to be aware of), is that fatherhood funding (and that could either be for marketing curriculum, or outreach to provide free legal advice in custody matters; both show up) is often directed to or through Children’s Trust Funds (in various states).

As often happens when I go look for an example for such a statement, I end up finding something even more extensive and disturbing. It’s like a bottomless chasm. This time was no exception, but I had the sense to know it belongs in a separate post…. Arrrgh!!!

To understand some of this is to wish never to go back to “numb and dumb” again. And I know people who have been put homeless by these programs, which wouldn’t have been, without them. That’s six feet higher than some people who have been killed because of the insane insistence that gender matters more than character when it comes to kids. It doesn’t! …. However, that alone is more about marketing than anything else, I believe.



Below here is a previous post, just moved to a new location.
At the bottom many dramatic logos showing Christian Counseling associations (in the field), plus some grants look-ups, are shown. So be it. We are talking, a lot of “Faith-Based (sexual offender, etc.) Re-entry programming.” and more.

These organizations know very well that there are federal (and through federal, state, county, etc.) funding streams arranged around certain themes.   These are the irrigation system (outflow) from the centralized collection system we now know as the United States of America (Federal Government).  So they set themselves up to get the grants.

If you finish reading about some of the personnel involved in the Michigan example below, and also hooked up with the Supervised Visitation/Batterers Intervention Program industry (which has  Coalition based in Michigan as well, logo below), in looking at its board — I saw several high-ups in the Michigan DHS department (hardly surprising).  Duane M. Wilson, Ismael Ahmed/Stanley M. Stewart (top DHS leadership), Debi Cain, and others show up in this 2009 report on “out of state travel” expenses.  Please browse with care — you can see what memberships and conferences some state personnel are being flown to.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dhs/DHS-Legislative-Sec217-3-PA248-2008-Travel_263086_7.pdf  People in each state ought to get hold of their respective reports, to see what their leadership (gov’t HHS dept) has been up to in:  fatherhood promotion, child support enforcement, marriage promotion, DV promotion, and a WHOLE lot more.  For example, you can see some of the big ones:

The Honorable Bill Hardiman, Chair Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on DHS Michigan State Senate State Capitol Lansing, Michigan 48933

The Honorable Dudley Spade House Appropriations Subcommittee on DHS Michigan House of Representatives Lansing, MI 48933

Dear Senator Hardiman and Representative Spade:

Section 217(3) of 2008 Public Act 248 (Enrolled House Bill No. 5814) requires the Department of Human Services to prepare a travel report listing all travel by classified and unclassified employees outside the state in Fiscal Year 2008. Our report is attached.

(this is fascinating detail — as we are paying Federal and State funding) airfare for our own employees to fly around the country and be trained in private nonprofit association conferences how to help (or screw) the public better — or at least in a more coordinated manner.

Hence, Duane M. Wilson (below) was flown in March 2008 to attend a Marriage/Fatherhood Conference in San Francisco, and Stanley M. Stewart (involved in State DHS and this Batterers Intervention Services MI Coalition, on its board) to attend an African American Healthy Marriage Conference in Charlotte, NC, etc.   The largest conferences (over $1,000 federal funding, plus some state) to attend seem to be related to child support.  Some guy (this is unrelated, but:  Byron Haskins) was flown east coast (Baltimore, several times) west coast (San Diego), also Louisiana and Chicago — re:  DDS (Disability?).  There are also people being flown around for Violence Prevention (but less splashy amounts) and the head of the Michigan DHS was flow to Washington, D.C. for the US Arab Economic Conference.  I’m not sure what that all represents, but as a woman, I’m a little concerned….

Of course as money has already been appropriated or voted into being that these things are for everyone’s good, then the next thing is the HOOK-UP — how are connections made between grantor and grantee, which happens at a number of places, but among them conferences, or getting on someone’s “listserv” — plus people who want to distribute the money are on the conference circuit.  In fact, probably a lot of your local employees are on the conference circuit, or hosting others on that circuit.  Private money is blended in at many stages along the way.

Here’s some of the profit — they are marketing information which is trademarked (often), and can be downloaded.  So the routine will go:  someone has developed a curriculum (new ideas are rare, new names for old ideas are common) and gets to promote themselves, their pet curriculum, and then the marketing distribution network is people coming through the courts, jails, child support systems, etc.

HINT:  ANYONE who calls this a “cottage industry” is lying.  Find better friends.  It ain’t not cottage industry — it’s plenty of business.

usually public/private, for the purpose of setting up the networks through which the money flows.  While services (classes, trainings, etc.) are indeed delivered, it seems to be the number and complexity of the network which makes it impossible for anyone to keep a lid on fraud, conflicts of interest, or for that matter embezzlements.  let alone, the issue of keeping religion out of it is now off the table.  It’s really a terrible situation anymore.

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Qualified as Personal Opinion, but I have experienced this, and this blogs shows I’ve also been reading, and networking — consistently.

TO:

Mothers whose exes are or were violent, and are trying to (or have) taken custody away from you, resulting in a living nightmare which seems only to expand, not ever come to a conclusion and who if they HAD money (or work), now have less; who if they did NOT have access to money (or work) are now on welfare, or just about barely surviving, etc. …

NOT FOR WOMEN CURRENTLY IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS, WHERE SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT AND WHO NEED A CRIMINAL RESTRAINING ORDER, YESTERDAY, OR A COMPLETE SEPARATION AND RELOCATION….

Please get the word out:   This is a racket (most of it is).

Going up to any government agency and talking about domestic violence and child abuse is risky, and probably stupid.  Sorry to put it that way.  We have heard of some cases (with high-powered men) where they were actually coached to abuse a child to get into this system, which backfires on those who report.

You may get an initial restraining order, but no one really has to enforce it (police certainly don’t).  Moreover police can’t be everywhere at once.  He might respect it, but these days, enough backup rhetoric exists to have taught him that it’s optional, and not to be taken seriously.

This is not the 1970s or even 1980s! It’s post-1996-welfare reform, feminist-backlash; it’s a post-9/11 world, post-Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives [OFCBI] world also.

Get a basic corporate ID before signing on to any group — mailing list, or emotionally, OK? Would you buy a car without doing that? Get married without this? (cases in point). So? Why take rides with strangers that want to help with your custody case, to better publicize the Court Crisis, suggest you join the mailing list, and come to a rally, buy a product, attend the conference. . . .

If it’s a nonprofit, look up the 990s, and find out where the money’s coming from and going to. then find out who the leadership conferences & collaborates with, for starters.

If it’s a for-profit, look up its history and find the associated foundation. The foundations are running this place, and they ARE essentially corporate and family wealth setting gov’t policy.

Individual voices will not be heard unless they have figured out what those groups need from us, AND START COLLECTIVELY WITHHOLDING IT, as possible, until there’s a better (more open and more honest) dialogue.

One place to start this might be to figure out away around receiving or seeking a child support order, sorry to put it that way. OR welfare. Work, beg, network, sublet, couch-surf, something. That’s the primary trap pulling people into the family court system — that, plus obtaining a domestic violence restraining or child protective order and having kids.

Prosper, be in health, good luck, etc.

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JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW WHAT LOOKS LOCAL, ISN’T REALLY LOCAL:

MICHIGAN, 2008.

(note:  I got rather upset after researching some of this, which will show by the end of the post.  I just don’t think groups capable of designing a logo which reads anything like:

World Conference - Our Time is Now

. . .(AACC stands for American Association of Christian Counselors).

should be getting federal funds to promote marriage and fatherhood, and given a virtual carte blanche in the children’s services area.

WHOSE time?

I know that some types of Christians may WANT to re-make the world in their Father’s image, but unfortunately, while “Jesus” may be alive and well in their hearts Jesus is not back in town yet and ruling the planet yet. And until then, we need to respect certain other standards, and quit trying to play God, particularly in mothers’ lives who may also believe in Jesus (Christ, that is) but want to report that they don’t think Jesus would want their spouses molesting their kids, or assaulting them, or in short, raising hell — and reserve the right to leave relationships that involve beating, cheating, or other forms of abuse.

Heck, we may even want to work outside the home and still keep the paycheck for a rainy day, too.

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FOR EXAMPLE (THIS ONE WAS MAILED TO ME, otherwise YOU COULD GO TO ALMOST ANY STATE AND FIND SOMETHING SIMILAR.  PLUS OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE ARE FLYING FROM STATE TO STATE FOR CONFERENCES, AND COMMUNICATING BY INTERNET, ETC. ON HOW TO SET UP MORE OF THESE….

Here’s a nice example (overt, too) of in a custody issue, “Dads” getting free legal help provided at HHS expense, and it’s also mentioned a church connection, and it’s from Michigan.

Michigan Department of Human Services

http://www.michigan.gov/dhs/0,1607,7-124–187565–,00.html

Dads get free legal advice and information about parenting

Contact:  Maureen Sorbet or Colleen Steinman (517) xxx-xxxx

March 14, 2008

GRAND RAPIDS – Information and legal advice about paternity, child custody, child support and parenting time will be available at the Dad’s Legal Clinic on Wed., March 19 at the United Methodist Community House.

The event, held from 5:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. at 904 Sheldon SE, is one of three statewide meetings to help fathers learn more about their rights and responsibilities as parents. Free pizza and beverages will be served. Free child care also is available.

Organizers say** that involved dads improve outcomes for children. One session was held in February in Lansing and another session will be held in Southfield in April. The series is sponsored by the Michigan Department of Human Services’ Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Initiative, Michigan State University’s Chance at Childhood, and community providers of the Proud Fathers-Proud Parents programs.

“Fathers play a critical role in the lives of their children,” said Duane Michael Wilson, coordinator of the DHS Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Initiative. “This information can make the difference to a dad who wants to be involved in his child’s life but doesn’t know how.”

For more information about the Grand Rapids Dad’s Legal Clinic, please contact Kimberly Steed at (517)###-#### or the United Methodist Community House at (616) ###-####.


**So the question becomes, who’s organizing this, and how come what they say gets statewide meetings?  Is this platform granted because the information is true — or because promoting it is mutually profitable to those involved?

“INITIATIVE” generally means “funding” to push programming.  the money is in the training and the programming, apparently; and it gets diverted from welfare, it comes from a variety of sources.

Any mother who is involved in any way, shape OR form in the welfare (or child support) system is likely to have her case run against this situation, particularly if she has reported something negative about the father — or even if he’s in jail….

These programs do not help GOOD fathers, they hurt good fathers, and sponsor bad ones.  That’s their purpose….     Here’s a great summary of the situation — again, from an individual, Anne Stevenson.  To my awareness, she has not started a “fix our broken courts” nonprofit, does not work on someone’s domestic violence agency (or for fatherhood groups either).  It’s the individuals reporting who tend to have the most valuable information; unfortunately their and our voices tend to get drowned out by funding (millions of $$ of it) for this rhetoric — and that funding is coming from public AND private money.

As our government appears to have so much money to throw around on propaganda, perhaps they should instead just return some of it to the taxpayers, and we will then handle our own families, and businesses, thank you. But that’s hardly the general idea.  The general idea is to keep it in circulation for the consultants, the curriculum manufactures, and wait as long as possible to actually distribute it, then complain about the “underfunded” courts when they are over-crowded because of poor program policies, to promote conflict when a protective parent comes up against a violent one.  Oldest game in the book I think (divide and conquer….).

Top 5 HHS Programs Endangering Women and Children

The so-called “War on Women” is raging, and billions of your tax dollars are being misused to fuel it via the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). The solution is to remove the middle class from the welfare roles and do away with gender-based funding incentives.

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 and the Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF) program it created transformed welfare policy by drastically reducing and shifting federal assistance away from the homes of mothers and children and into the homes of violent offenders . . .

{{note:  It also, by switching from aid to families to “block grants to states” allowing more “flexibility” opened up the entire marriage promotion industry, and in the process privatized welfare and centralized (by state) control of the funds even further.  Hence in Oklahoma, it only took a Governor Keating, cooperating with an DHS leader (Jerry Regier) to choose to grab a “contingency fund” and apply it to consultants, strategists, and for-profit curricula distribution to promote marriage & fatherhood which was priority #4, not I, of the purpose of welfare itself.  to justify this, of course someone had to first declare that it was being a single mother PER SE (and not economic conditions, wage discriminations, or previous abuse which plunged women (specifically) into poverty. See Oklahoma Marriage Initiative on this blog, or look it up.” Block grants to states = someone has access to larger blocks of money and can re-route it, with some justification, at will, to cronies, pet proects, or out-of-state-contractors, which indeed happened… That the Governor was Catholic in upbringing and his head of HHS (Regier) conservative Christian, and Bush-connected, of course was just coincidence}}

These HHS policies created a new breed of dangerous Welfare Kings through HHS Office of Child Support Enforcement when it began subsidizing the homes and legal battles of the unfit, unwilling, and violent fathers. At the beginning of a custody case, only the offender is sick, but if one violent offender gets custody, the whole family needs treatment. Consequently, it is also not uncommon for dozens of family court mental health and legal professionals onto the case to sustain his deadly custody rights through HHS programs.

The top 5 HHS programs endangering women and children are:

1. Child Support Enforcement (Access and Visitation Programs and Responsible Fatherhood Initiative2011 report from the Office of the Inspector General demonstrates that the States are collecting child support, but not disbursing it to the children it is intended to benefit. So where is the money going? Although previous graduates include mass murderer D.C. Sniper John Muhammad, the 2012 HHS budget reflects President Obama’s $1 billion endorsement of the fraud-riddled fatherhood industry.

Using the virtually unregulated child support system as a vehicle and the father’s will to evade prison time as collateral, the fathers are told they can risk their liberty and property attempting to pay down arrears, or alternatively, sue the mother for custody using a variety of federally funded “supports.” Unlike the welfare programs for women and children which had restrictive income eligibility requirements, HHS Responsible Fatherhood program benefits are not needs based and are available to all fathers-even billionaires.

Benefits from Responsible Fatherhood programs to abusers include:

  • Child support obligations are suspended
  • Free attorney representation in the family courts to fight for custody
  • Free housing
  • Direct cash incentive

I have heard of the direct cash incentive in some cases, Michigan here demonstrates free legal help, and I can testify (as many other mothers) to child support obligations being suspended.

Essentially, once this game begins, its outcome is predictable, and we are going to be in survival mode, given how many organizations, professions, and grants are depending on an ongoing conflict over custody.

practical application (by process of elimination of the obvious ” Not” to do, find the “What” to do?)

Until “the public” stops funding this by getting these initiatives from welfare reform, or women (and the good Dads) figure out how to boycott the funding — I’m not sure how much difference that would make — and start communicating “across the fence” about our commonalities (i.e., there are men who could also have things to say about the fatherhood incentives, if they would.  I have been talking about the DV not just the FR issues, etc.).

Other Matters to consider:

The public is so manipulated (by education, by habit, by social status, and by mass media; by lack of time to seriously evaluate long-held beliefs, and by the momentum of all these energies into HABIT….)  to respect authority, experts — and so invested in their safety margins and work careers (i.e., middle class:  Retaining the jobs as middle-aged workers, preparing for their own retirements, if possible hoping for a pension, etc.) I’m not counting on it to help. I already sought help from the ‘public at large’ AND specific communities while in a violent, and dangerous marriage, for years — and am pretty clear on what sectors it is NOT in….  I am not risking my own future on hope that the “public” will wise up any time soon.   

The public” is also easily distracted, not including the part not being medicated into focusing better.

Moreover (not that this post isn’t itself a large dinner to digest….) my recent understanding is that, because the actual government profits are NOT primarily from taxes, but from returns on assets held at the multiple levels of government — (see Walter Burien’s writings, blogroll), it may or may not make THE difference to withdraw or boycott so much of these funds.  Technically speaking (I believe) the governments we are serving — who are instead supposed to serve us — as we speak DO (as opposed to Fiscal Cliff do NOT) have sufficient operating funds, and could continue these abusive programs if they wished, even if we collectively and drastically withheld our warm bodies AND figured out a way to quite feeding it income taxes.  These are NOT the only sources of revenue for our government.

HOWEVER, I still believe that knowing about these matters can help individuals decide where to put their time and energies, and who to associate with, and possibly connect with others who are in the same place about what NOT to do in this matter.

When looking for solutions to a certain problem, what questions you ask — how you frame the question (hypothesis) is critical.   Analysis and instinct are both required.  An issue we have in these fields is that “others” with financial interests have been framing the questions (“Why does he DO that?” regarding batterers, “Violence Against Women” the gender analysis of causes of violence; “Parental Alienation” (pro or con) for problems with children, etc. etc.) — instead of stepping back to look — closely and carefully at both the situation and the “problemsolvers” overall — and re-evaluate it.

If you are associating with people (OR groups) who are habitually dishonest and lying to you, while proclaiming they are instead helping and advocating — and once they have been either confronted with the truth, or given a chance for YOU to determine whether this is intentional, or simply negligent; i.e., does acquaintance with radically illuminating truth change policies and procedures in a particular group; how (may I ask?) is this not just like the abusive or extortionist partner you personally left?

 

……Notice this was in the year 2008 (Presidential election year also, remember?), also known as a terrible time economically for the nation — except those benefitting from more government bailouts, etc.   But they still had time to run fatherhood programs…

This appears to be a classic case involving many elements of the post-1996 welfare reform SCAM in promoting these programs.  At first glance, I can see the FOR-PROFIT element is probably the Proud Fathers-Proud Parents programs, which might be on-line based, a certification course to  become a provider, etc.

LOOKING UP THIS MICHIGAN DHS INITIATIVE (SIMPLE ON-LINE SEARCH), HERE’S SOME FROM 2009; SAME GENERAL IDEA:  NOTICE THERE’S A DV “TREATMENT” BOARD AND THE STATE GOVERNOR IS BEHIND THIS.  (Probably because it represents money coming to Michigan):

Governor Declares February Responsible Fatherhood Awareness Month in MichiganContact:  Gisgie Dávila Gendreau, marketing and public relations director (517) ###-####Feb. 10, 2009LANSING – Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm has declared February as Responsible Fatherhood Awareness Month in Michigan.

Fathers who actively participate in their children’s lives can help reduce the risk of childhood poverty, mental illness and substance abuse.Children whose fathers are involved in their lives also have a reduced risk of juvenile delinquency, early sexual activity, teen pregnancies and are less likely to drop out of high school.

{{oh?? isn’t “involved in their lives” kind of a vague term??}}

Two events will be held to increase awareness about the benefits of nurturing fathers:

{{fathers who nurture, or are the rest of us supposed to nurture fathers so they can “man up” and quit assaulting their kids & wives?}}

  • Take Your Dad to School Week, Feb. 16-20. The Michigan Fatherhood Coalition encourages teachers, principals, administrators and other school personnel to host father-friendly activities, allowing dads to share time with their children at school.
  • 7th Annual Fatherhood Conference, March 11. Co-sponsored by the Michigan Head Start Association and the Michigan Fatherhood Coalition, the event will be held at the Kalamazoo Radisson Hotel.

“The Michigan Department of Human Services supports responsible fatherhood because positively involved** fathers are paramount to improving child outcomes and creating safe, healthy family environments,” said Debi Cain, executive director of the Michigan Domestic Violence Prevention and Treatment Board, which is charged with efforts to reduce domestic violence in the state.

{{**so nice to have a strict measurable qualifier here, “positively involved.” And what’s all this talk about “child outcomes.”}}

DHS has several programs aimed at improving outcomes for Michigan children through support for fathers, couples and co-parenting, and increasing awareness of the benefits to children who are nurtured, including the Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood initiatives”

For more information about responsible fatherhood, please visit www.michigan.gov/parenting. For more information on the 7th Annual Fatherhood Conference, visit www.mhsa.ws/.

(both links are broken, but “mhsa” is the Michigan Head Start Association).

FYI, this situation isn’t going away unattended:  Look at the progression — all from the same source, the DHS department of Michigan Government:

SO — regarding in MICHIGAN, this won’t change if it’s not addressed — see progression:

[[Whereas, Whereas, Whereas, Whereas (propaganda items 1,2,3,4 — mimic Congressional declarations in 1998 & 1999, hardly new, but the pompous format is modeled after the Declaration of Independence, except that that document actually held some serious truth; these statements are phrased in terms of social science theory!]]

NOW, THEREFORE, I, Rick Snyder, Governor of Michigan, do hereby proclaim February 2012 as Responsible Fatherhood Awareness Month in Michigan

Office of the Governor of Michigan, Rick Snyder

Maybe the real issue is of tolerating increasing levels of Piled Higher and Deeper, and providing funding platforms so that we are ALL (male and female, parents and non-parents) exposed to this.  Let’s see — isn’t that a technique used in governmental systems we supposedly aren’t, like communist?  Endless indoctrinations by the state...

OK let’s consider the 2008 and 2009 insets — particularly how Domestic Violence groups (so-called) are involved here:

When you see the word “Executive Director,” Usually, you are probably looking at a nonprofit.  however this happens to be a Governor-appointed 7-member board.  You just saw that in 2009 the Governor is promoting fatherhood, so go figure how domestic violence prevention is going to merge with that!

As I see elsewhere in DHS about this board – it was originally established WITHIN what is now DHS, what was the “family independence agency”:

Michigan Domestic Violence Prevention and Treatment Board

The Michigan Domestic Violence Prevention and Treatment Board (MDVPTB) was established within the Michigan Family Independence Agency (now known as the Department of Human Services) in 1978 by state legislation that created a Governor-appointed Board responsible for focusing state activity on domestic violence. The Board administers state and federal funding for domestic violence shelters and advocacy services, develops and recommends policy, and develops and provides technical assistance and training.The seven-member Board represents a cross-section of professions concerned with the crime of domestic violence. Members are appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Senate.

Staff provided by the Department of Human Services assists the Board in carrying out their legislative charge.

Having DHS staff this is a conflict of interest, as the DHS is so utterly re-tooled to promote fatherhood and marriage, particularly since 1996.  This gives it a “veneer” of preventing violence, while the same types of abusive control, threats, stalking (and injuries) can continue to occur as enabled through the OTHER special interests in the family court venues…  Right??

Therefore, Domestic Violence is obviously not a Crime, but something (maybe a sickness?) that needs “Treatment.”  But when you get right down to it — they are administering state and federal funding for shelters and advocacy services, and do “TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING.”  Isn’t that nice to know that only SEVEN people, appointed by ONE person (Governor) and not elected, are going to be administering money that is supposed to help women (and/or men) who had to flee to domestic violence shelters, and determining how much gets to the shelters, and how much gets into training them how to be better co-parents???

Current membership contains three “Honorables” and if you live in MI you know faster than I whether these are judges or Congressional Representatives, and I’d look them up, too.

Current Members

Cris Sullivan, Chair
The Honorable Donald Allen
Jeffrie Cape
Candace Cowling
James A. Fink
The Honorable Amy Ronayne Krause
The Honorable Edward Sosnick
Debi Cain, Executive Director

Debi Cain has a longstanding background in Violence prevention; I note that her majors were psychology and computer science; a brief bio (at that link) is from another Michigan Nonprofit, founded by a David Garvin, called

BISCMI Logo

DAVID J. H. GARVIN, MSW, LMSW 
Senior Director of Catholic Social Services of Washtenaw County in Ann Arbor, Michigan where he founded, supervises and directs the Alternatives to Domestic Aggression Program(ADA), the Behavioral Health Services and Substance Abuse Services, Adoption and Pregnancy Services, and the Supervised Visitation and Exchange Program. David has been directly involved in the anti-domestic violence movement since 1986 when he founded the ADA Program.

Somehow it’s less than assuring to have a (male) Catholic Social worker ALSO interested in Adoption and Pregnancy services being involved in the DV prevention  industry also.    This represents a very-early-in-the field compromise between grassroots battered women’s advocates who wanted (women like me!) to just be able to stay SEPARATE from their batterers — somehow, got morphed (or, as I say compromised) into instead trading real safety for partial, temporary safety — and BIPs and SVNs and Trainings for Judges.   BIP is “batterers intervention programs” and SVN obviously the entire Supervised Visitation Network.  Apart from the fact that these also get then turned against mothers (somehow), and are taking federal (access/visitation) funding — therefore a public expense; there are also too many occasions where fraud (double-billing) has shown up, which has been known at least 10 years and not, to my knowledge, stopped.    It is a virtual conflict of interest nightmare.

Again, see the gravatar (mine) and click on it.  Why “Supervised Visitation Services” at all?  Either men (and women) control themselves, or they don’t.  If they can’t, then no visitation.   If they can, then OK.  But inbetween is just a financial nightmare, sends a real mixed messages for kids, and forces children to interact sometimes in an artificial manner with their former abusers.  It’s a recipe for disaster!!!  (And has resulted in not a few….).

Mr. Garvin is the founder of the Alternatives to Domestic Aggression Program, a co-founder and chair of theBatterer Intervention Services Coalition of Michigan. Mr. Garvin was selected to serve as the co-chair of the Michigan Governor’s Taskforce on creating standards for batterer intervention programs. Mr. Garvin has conducted trainings, consultations, conferences, workshops, in-services around the country and has been featured on local, state and national television, in magazines, professional journals and newspapers.

in “creating standards for a program,” that’s just a step away from setting up a new franchised profession.  Only trouble:  this one is billed to the public, and/or the parents.  The last thing they need at this time.

Mr. Garvin was named the 2009 National Association of Social Workers-Michigan (NASW-MI) Social Worker of the Year. He earned the prestigious honor for his work in the areas of domestic violence, mental health and adoption.

(I also noted that they seem to have a new member on the board of this nonprofit — who just so happens to be  Darlene Johnson “Associate Director, Office of Violence Against Women” and other high-powered (VERY high-powered) individuals from in and out of state (TN, Washington, Indiana, etc.).

AND in particular, another person on the board of this coalition from MDHS involved in the Hope VI housing project.  Hope VI I blogged just recently, from “The Myth of the Rule of Law” as a specific HUD area that Catherine Austin Fitts nailed as giving a negative return on (federal investments) — specifically in the Philadelphia area.  But, great when it came to “fees for friends.”   Here’s the link, hover cursor (or search the term) for that section.

STANLEY M. STEWART
Stanley M. Stewart was appointed to the position of chief deputy director of the Michigan Department of Human Services by Director Ismael Ahmed effective September 24, 2007.

Stanley Stewart’s background is in human services delivery and administration. Most recently, he was president of Stewart Information Services, ((if I have which one right, this is huge in real estate, but I may not, there)) his own consultancy,** serving nonprofit community based organizations with expertise in grantsmanship, regulatory affairs, budgeting, staffing, volunteerism, and community relations. In this role, Stan provided technical assistance in development of the national AmeriCorps project through the Arab Community Center for Economic and Social Services (ACCESS), and consulted on the Hope VI project in the City of Detroit. (=a HUD project)

Hope VI excerpt, from “Fitts” link:

HUD has a program called Hope VI, which is the construction of new public housing. Here is how the money works on Hope VI. We tax people who make $36,000 a year. We then take the money and use it to build housing that costs $150-250,000 (inclusive of all overhead, etc) per apartment unit, which we use to warehouse people who make $10,000 a year or less in a manner in which they are unlikely to become taxpayers. This generates a large number of jobs, profit, and private equity for a group of lawyers, accountants, developers, **consultants and others who tend to make substantially in excess of $36,000, say anywhere from $75,000 to $500,000 or more a year.

That general theme seems to hold true for the HHS aspect before, and often they seem to intersect with each other …..

In the HUD programs, a surprising number of them went to Harvard, Harvard Business School, the Harvard Kennedy School, and last but most special, Harvard Law School. If not Harvard, someplace more like it than the University of Tennessee agricultural school.

A few years back I took the pricings on the HUD defaulted mortgage portfolio to the head of Hope VI. I explained that HUD had substantial single-family inventory in those same communities. Empty single-family homes could be bought and repaired at a fraction of the price of new construction of public housing by private developers. The HUD official said, “but then how would we generate fees for our friends?” You just have to love a woman who is that honest.

From the tan-background excerpts below, we can see that:

University (MSU), the state-level DHS department, community providers (can you spell, more nonprofits?) and at least for location, a Methodist Church are involved.

While “Chance at Childhood” sounds like it’s about childhood, this is actually about more custodial time for fathers (including abusive fathers) at public expense, plus diversions from helping the household the children live in directly into programming.

It appears to be a set of programs within MSU coordinating between social workers and lawyers.

Wanna place a bet that at the DHS coordinator also has a hand in some of the programs being marketed?  Can you spell Financial Incentives?

((This turns out to be true, but I was rather deeply disturbed after finding one of the PhD’s involved here (Dr. Randell Turner) networking with Mr. Wilson, who wears a few different hats at will) had some serious connections with the Christian Psychologists/Counselors Conference Circuit (see bottom of page, a little frightening in scope and purpose…//Fuller Theological Seminary and the like)  who are basically looking to take over the primary institutions of the world that have anything to do with reproduction, marriage, parenting, divorce, education ,and of course, sex, including sexuality….).

Actually, the emotional component kinda messed with my head just now, so this post didn’t go as planned.   However, just FYI — in case these concepts are new, be aware, this ain’t Kansas any more.

I have been restructuring my concept of “who government is” to match the facts (evidence) now, for a number of years, after experientially finding out when my kids were removed overnight (in violation of a custody order) and no justification (legal or factual) ever given for it, at least on the record.

I’ll leave this as is.

I just found out that a “Randell Turner, Ph.D.” whose linkedIn below gives a nice clue to how serious these groups are about pushing their message was also formerly Vice President of the National Fatherhood Initiative, and has moved from there into another serious player in this field, “ICF International.”

Randell Turner, Ph.D.

(resume, in part only — to point out it sounds like he may have a home base in Pennsylvania):

http://www.forestinstitute.org/mhcc/2012-conference/plenary-speakers/randell-turner–phd.aspx

Prior to joining ICF International, Dr. Turner served as vice president of the National Fatherhood Initiative, (NFI) a nationally recognized non-profit organization dedicated to improving child outcomes through engaged, committed and involved fathers. He was responsible for research and development of curricula, for community-based, school-based teen father, health/safety childcare for new/expecting fathers, military and incarcerated fatherhood programs.

While with NFI he served as consultant to Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge’s Fatherhood Initiative developing, promoting and training community-based, prison and school based programs for fathers and their families. Additionally, Dr. Turner initiated and consulted with Pennsylvania State University, Center for Organizational Research and Evaluation and the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections which conducted research including, process and outcomes evaluations on incarcerated fatherhood programs in the state of Pennsylvania.

}}}Funny, wasn’t it Penn State University recently that had a molestation of minors scandal recently, Jerry Sandusky etc.  Makes you wonder what’s up at Penn State, how come these terrific programs don’t stay on top of things…{{{

Dr. Turner initiated one of the first state-wide prisoner re-entry programs with the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections, by developing the Helping Offenders Parent Effectively,** (H.O.P.E.) a prison to community re-entry and transition program, community resources, training and strategies to prepare incarcerated parents for prisoner reentry. Dr. Turner co-authored an award winning column given by the Evangelical Press Association for Prison Fellowship, a nonprofit ministry, Inside Edition a faith-based newsletter addressing incarcerated fatherhood issues.  Since 2004, Dr. Turner has been developing and implementing new program/curricula for transitioning sex offenders returning from state and county prisons.

Recipient Name City State ZIP Code County DUNS Number Sum of Awards
I C F, INC  FAIRFAX VA 22031-6050 FAIRFAX 072648579 $ 6,435,784

 (from taggs.hhs.gov, a grants database 

 

$3 million of the above (that’s straight-out grant, not contracts) is a single grant, “90FH0002”:

“NATIONAL RESOURCE CENTER FOR STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE HEALTHY MARRIAGE – NON COMPETING CONTINUATION APPLICATION” (click on some links, or you can look it up).

If you can put “Helping Offenders Parent Effectively” and transitioning sex offenders back into the community and fatherhood programs and connections to the family court systems (nationwide and international), I think the handwriting is somewhat on the walls about these groups.

http://www.state.nj.us/corrections/SubSites/OTS/OTS_CORE.html  Theme is “protecting public safety by changing offender behavior”  OTS is “Office of Transitional Services.”

Helping Offenders Parent Effectively (HOPE)
In 2008 New Jersey Department of Corrections, the Office of Transitional Services implemented the Helping Offenders Parent Effectively (HOPE) program. Offenders who learn to be better fathers can help reduce these risks and have positive effects on their children’s lives. Research shows that inmates who learn to become better fathers are less likely to return to prison, and that their children   adjust better when they are reunited. The goal of HOPE is to enable offenders to see the importance of accepting responsibility for their children and increase their ability to be self sufficient by beginning to take control of your life. Participants attend HOPE once a week for 90 minutes per session for ten weeks.

(in testimony, 2010, about this program, it allegedly started in 2007 and was 12 weeks (pages not numbered, but it’s toward the end of this pdf).  Somewhere, someone is being reimbursed as the trainings are run.  I would like to know, who?)

Remember this next March and ask your legislators AGAIN to DE-fund, not RE-fund Welfare Block Grants to States — or at least these set-asides.  Meanwhile, figure out away not to get baited into the system, if at all possible.

I want to show this in part because (SHAME ON THEM!) the DV groups should’ve shown all mothers at least as much as the fathers were shown.  The men’s groups make sure they can definitely spout off about DV groups, but this doesn’t go two ways.  Many women’s groups talk so vaguely (not all, but many) to focuse on the characteristics of abusers and batterers — not on the corporation.  Moreover, the DV groups appear to have been (bought out) centralized and coordinated under statewide Coalitions.  Those that didn’t join the crowd were hard put to retain funding, almost end of story for independence of policy in the entire community.

We also need to understand that these programs ARE marketed, sold, they are businesses.

This is what women are up against (because of gender) when they enter ANY family law court anymore, anywhere in the nation, for a custody conflict.  This is federally funded, hooked into the child support program, and is a means by which children can get trafficked into the system (depending on the fight, into foster care, or back into the care of the less appropriate parent), and money also can be absolutely laundered through multiple nonprofits that NO ONE is typically going to hold accountable.

I no longer am willing to go nuts trying to track all of them even in my own area, in other states for other women.  I am simply sending out the alerts.  FYI, when some of these service providers get caught with their pants down (or hands in the cash drawer, i.e., money goes missing, invoices and distributions don’t miss — OR the organization actually receiving the money, allegedly a nonprofit, doesn’t exist at the state level anymore, or doesn’t file its tax returns.  The situation is UNbelievable in scope….).

Once you see this, you will (or at least should!) be angry and then figure out what to do about it, locally.  My decision is that it seems more logical to go look up the local government entities (more than you realize) and start examining their “CAFRs” (see links to the right) AND that we get a hold on the material of Walter Burien in that regard, and in Catherine Austin Fitts (with her work on HUD, investments, mortgage-backed-securities sell-offs etc.) and in addition (which CAF doesn’t address, but I do and will continue to) the role of faith-based institutions AND flat-out churches, in all of this.

HERE’s a quick lookup on this one above, which I just happened to be mailed today (another woman feels betrayed, properly at this). Once you see this pattern, depending on where your case is (how far progressed), you may be able to in hindsight identify at what point the fatherhood/marriage (etc.) funding kicked into corrupt it.  

I would quit blurting out personal information about one’s case (for emotional validation; or if you do, get past that place quickly) and focus on SEEKING information which might be leverage in your case.

I am not sure how much the public, which is already over-stressed, cares about the mis-use of their public funds to extort one or the other parent (or both, over time) in custody matters.  After all, they have already bought into the concept that by paying the government, continually, and more and more (while services are cut), they will be relieved of having to actually deal with criminal matter sin their neighborhoods, or school shootings, gangsters, child abusers, and other perverts running loose.

The UPside of finding out all this troubling information is absolutely knowing it’s not “in your head,” and who has covered up this information while training mothers to handle things differently, like, by complaining louder, and more frequently, and longer about such idiotic mantras as “Our Broken Family Courts” or “Children Exposed to Violence” — which, while true — only feeds the system and seems to justify more money poured into what’s going to end up being “Fees for Friends” anyhow.

The United States Government already cannot audit itself, and regularly “loses” millions in the cracks between federal and state governments of the $4 billion a year (or so) child support industry.  It has admitted in public that it doesn’t really know how much is missing.   (see HHS/OIG/OAS Archives on Undistributable Child Support).  it is misreporting its own assets to all of us (see CAFRs), by simply moving things off the regular budget (which is shoved in our faces election time, all the time, including by accounting firms we trusted to tell us better) and crying “broke” when it’s not broke.

DEMONSTRATION LOOK-UP:

OK, QUICK STUDY — ONE CASE IN MICHIGAN.  POP QUIZ — How FAST can you find the for-profit product in this government program?

Michigan Department of Human Services

http://www.michigan.gov/dhs/0,1607,7-124–187565–,00.html

Dads get free legal advice and information about parenting

Contact:  Maureen Sorbet or Colleen Steinman (517) xxx-xxxx

March 14, 2008GRAND RAPIDS – Information and legal advice about paternity, child custody, child support and parenting time will be available at the Dad’s Legal Clinic on Wed., March 19 at the United Methodist Community House.The event, held from 5:30 p.m. to 8 p.m. at 904 Sheldon SE, is one of three statewide meetings to help fathers learn more about their rights and responsibilities as parents. Free pizza and beverages will be served. Free child care also is available.

Organizers say that involved dads improve outcomes for children.***

One session was held in February in Lansing and another session will be held in Southfield in April. The series is sponsored by the Michigan Department of Human Services’ Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Initiative, Michigan State University’s Chance at Childhood (see staff), and community providers of the Proud Fathers-Proud Parents programs.

“Fathers play a critical role in the lives of their children,” said Duane Michael Wilson, coordinator of the DHS Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Initiative. “This information can make the difference to a dad who wants to be involved in his child’s life but doesn’t know how.”

For more information about the Grand Rapids Dad’s Legal Clinic, please contact Kimberly Steed at (517) xxx-xxxx or the United Methodist Community House at (616) ccc-cccc.

(I don’t approve of federal funding of free legal help for fathers to get children away from mothers, as managed by a strongly networked combo of social workers, attorneys (judges) AND religious groups; so you can go look up the tel#s yourself!)

Regarding “Chance at Childhood” & MSU Michigan State, in particular, has a well-known Children’s Law Clinic, which has connections with those who are developing (have developed) Children’s Law as a specialty — in particular Marvin Ventrell (formerly of NACC, now of a group in Chicago), and I cannot remember offhand who his partner was in many publications, who is based at that law center.

If you look closely at “Who We Are,” the three staff listed on “Chance at Childhood” are each of them cycling in and out of the family court as workers, to nonprofits who take businesses from the courts.   In addition, one has a San Diego connection (in this case).  I did learn (by paying attention) that on the East Co

Joseph Kozakiewicz earned his bachelor’s and law degrees from Columbia University in 1985 and 1988, respectively. He earned a master’s degree in social work from Grand Valley State University in 2000. A native of New York State, Mr. Kozakiewicz moved to San Diego, California following his graduation from law school. Mr. Kozakiewicz practiced business and securities law for 3 years and then taught at the University of San Diego School of Law for 4 years before relocating to West Michigan. In 1997, Mr. Kozakiewicz began working for the Children’s Law Center, a non-profit agency devoted to advocating for children in variety of legal matters. Between 1998 and 2003, Mr. Kozakiewicz worked for the Ottawa County Family Court, first as a referee conducting hearings in a variety of family court cases, and then as the Director of the Friend of the Court, the county agency responsible for enforcing child support, custody, and parenting time orders. In 2003 Mr. Kozakiewicz accepted the position of Director of the Michigan State University Chance at Childhood Program. This interdisciplinary program serves to promote and protect the well-being of children and families through integrated education and advocacy.

( In part because the money is in running trainings….)
Specifically, this is a NONPROFIT with an agenda,   (EIN# 432107145) and it runs classes out of various institutions (including the Proud Fathers, Proud Parents, evidently) — and it’s a win-win if you’re a practitioner, in government, or a father who needs the free legal help (and maybe some case-steering?).
EIN Sorted Ascending Legal Name (Doing Business As) Sorted Ascending City Sorted Ascending State Sorted Ascending Country Sorted Ascending Deductibility Status Sorted Ascending
43-2107145 Michigan Fatherhood Coalition Lansing MI United States PC

(per the IRS search tool, by EIN#)

The Michigan Fatherhood Coalition (MFC) is {{make that “was” as of Oct. 2008}} a Michigan nonprofit organization composed of committed volunteer practitioners/ professionals who work in private and public agencies with fathers. The MFC formed because a group of interested practitioners recognized the need for an organization within Michigan solely committed to responsible fatherhood for the well-being of Michigan’s children.

“Practitioners” by now means “fatherhood practitioner” which essentially means someone on the grants stream who runs or designs programs, and sells (pushes) them through public or religious institutions.  It’s jargon to make them sound more expert.

According to this database that nonprofit formed in 2006 (and isn’t earning enough money to report?) which just happens to coincide with another round of healthy marriage/responsible fatherhood grants.

http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/orgs/profile/432107145?popup=1

The “work in public agencies” is another way of saying “is a government employee//civil servant.”  The focus on fatherhood neatly coincides with money being freed up for fatherhood programs (year after year) from multiple sources in the federal gov’t, distributed through the states, with private interests blended in.

The Coalition provides the networking to get the money to run the programs.  This particular nonprofit is a membership one, probably another way it raises money.

Child well-being requires the presence of nurturing and caring parents who understand the value of good parenting and how this impacts healthy child development. MFC believes that both parents are important to healthy child development. We work with agencies and organizations to create more father friendly environments and intervention strategies that better support fathers.

In practice this means and includes supporting fathers when in conflict with mothers, i.e., AGAINST mothers.

Duane Michael Wilson shows as “Vice President” of this nonprofit (Michigan Fatherhood Coalition) formed in (per the above link) 2006, and as on this brochure (dated 2011).  However at the same time he is showing up in the DHS Children’s Services Administration as a public employee encouraging people to sign up at MFC to be on the listserv and ask to be a Proud Fathers Program Site Administrator.  The motto is “A Practitioners Network:  Nurturing Fathers, Thriving Children.”  This nonprofit also shares a street address with an Elementary and Head Start School (1107 East Grand River, Lansing, MI).

Looking up the State Corporations Search, it shows Mr. Wilson, above, as the “Registered Agent” date of corporation 2004 (in state of Michigan anyhow), it’s a Nonprofit (doesn’t pay taxes, right?) and it was automatically dissolved on OCTOBER 1, 2008.  Notice date of notice above is March, 2008.

Searched for: MICHIGAN FATHERHOOD COALITION
ID Num: 786840  
Entity Name: MICHIGAN FATHERHOOD COALITION
Type of Entity: Domestic Nonprofit Corporation
Resident Agent: DUANE M WILSON
Registered Office Address: 1214 BEMENT ST  LANSING   MI  48912
Mailing Address:   P.O. Box 30037 LANSING  MI  48909
Formed Under Act Number(s): 162-1982          
Incorporation/Qualification Date: 3-9-2004
Jurisdiction of Origin: MICHIGAN
Number of Shares: 0
Year of Most Recent Annual Report: 07
Year of Most Recent Annual Report With Officers & Directors: 07
Status: AUTOMATIC DISSOLUTION   Date: 10-1-2008

That’s how this game works…

“Organizers say that involved dads improve outcomes for children.”***

Besides being unqualified tripe (it’s obvious, some dads do, other dads do not).  If it had a qualifier, it might be a valid statement, but without one it’s a social science position.  This also tells you what the organizers think about children – they are little beings to be processed and get a desirable outcome.  The official state position now is that this means, based on our experiments and data (which don’t take into account obviously the reports from bloggers* who follow the news, and others who know better, that some Dads are good, and some Dads are dangerous).

“Contrary to fathers’ rights propaganda, father perpetrators (along with stepdads and caretaker boyfrends) dominate the most vicious crimes against children: sexual assault, abusive head trauma, murder-suicides, crimes involving gun violence, and other similar forms of physically violent/fatal child abuse. And as more dads are providing child care (either because mom is working and can’t find other care, or because dads are increasingly getting unsupervised visitation/custody through the family courts), more dads are are being found guilty of basic child abuse and neglect as well.”

{{Note: That “dastardlydads” blog contains news reports, including some analysis of “missing mom” reports, or incidents which happened right after custody-switch.  These are any mother’s nightmare, and I don’t handle reading them very well.  But they stand as a retort to the “kids’ outcome is better with involved Dads.”}}

{{It’s my understanding that this blogger knows about the FR funding, but has chosen NOT to report on it, at least not here.  We had some sharp words about it and parted (on-line) paths.  However, that anyone even has the stomach to report this, should be commended:  I don’t.}}

What I’m pointing out here is that the theme of the propaganda itself is indoctrinating people into a religious belief (as stated), and to accepting “double-speak.”   However the programs themselves should be analyzed as to the FINANCIAL factors.    The US Government is pouring millions every year into fatherhood promotion.  People are still dying as a result, yet they continue to dump funds into this.

We should ask, WHY.

I simply look things up:

“Duane Michael Wilson” – a facebook reference shows a 2010 meeting and who else is involved, federal fatherhood grantee “ICF International” and the NFRC (Clearinghouse) I’ve been reporting on in recent months…

Michigan Fatherhood Coalition 8th Annual Fatherhood Conference
  • Registration is $45 (Scholarships are available). For a registration packet, e-mail: michfatherhood@gmail.com

    8:00 am – 8:45 am Registration/Continental Breakfast

    9:00 am – 10:00 am Welcome & Keynote Speaker, Dr. Randell Turner – Dr. Turner is a Senior Associate and Child & Family Therapist with ICF International/National Fatherhood Clearinghouse. Dr. Turner has a rich history of developing resources for community-based fatherhood programs, including four cutting- edge fatherhood curriculums that areused in programs throughout the country. He is a frequent speaker at National Fatherhood, Head Start, and Child & Family Conferences.

    10:15 am – 11:30 am WORKSHOPS

    I. “Everybody Has a Dad: Men Talking about their Relationships
    with their Fathers” Ed Long, Ph.D., Central Michigan University

    II. “Establishing Your Father Involvement Program Without
    Additional Funding” Randell D. Turner, Ph.D., ICF International, National Responsible Fatherhood Clearinghouse

    III. “Working with Challenging Service Providers” Duane Michael
    Wilson, LMSW, Dept. of Human Services
    / Pamela Jaymes LBSW, Spectrum Child & Family Services

    IV. “Child Support -Navigating the System” -Ellen Durnan, Office of Child Support, Michigan Dept. of Human Services

    V. “Eliminating The Fear Factor -Becoming the Nurturing Dad”
    -Robert Pletcher, United Way of Jackson / Jeff Keener, Capital Area Community Services

    11:45 am – 1:00 pm Lunch

    1:15 pm – 2:30 pm WORKSHOPS

    VI. “Afraid to Truly Love -Addressing Challenges in Fatherless
    Children” Randell D. Turner, Ph.D., ICF International, National Responsible Fatherhood Clearinghouse

    VII. “His Brain, Her Brain & Your Approach” Duane Michael Wilson, LMSW, Dept. of Human Services

    VIII. “Reaching Out To New Dads” Chris Singer & MC Rothhorn, Parent Representatives on the Great Start Initiative & Stay at Home Dads

    IX. “Responsible Fatherhood & Domestic Violence -What’s the
    Connection?” Mary Lovik, JD, Legal Director, Michigan Domestic Violence Prevention & Treatment Board
    / Joyce Wright, Training Director Michigan Domestic Violence Prevention & Treatment Board

    X. “The 7 Secrets of Becoming Your Child’s Hero” Mike Kildee, Bendle/Carman-Ainsworth Early Childhood Programs / John Fort, Wayne County Head Start

    2:40 pm – 3:00 pm Wrap up/Door Prizes

Howell Nazarene Church
415 McCarthy St.Howell, MI

Notice how many groups are involved, including a DV “Treatment Board” (with a J.D. involved), and that it’s being held at a Nazarene Church.  Nazarenes are a very controlling group; other marriage/fatherhood promoters in (same or different?) Nazarene community include Les and Leslie Parrott out of Washington (but buying up property in AZ, I noticed), who I have blogged.  They are related by marriage and/or blood to some presidents in the Nazarene College system.

They are developing and selling curricula to market to men in the custody system, in the child support system, noncustodial fathers, fathers who want more time with their kids, and men in prison facing re-entry, including sex offenders.  Where do you want to dig in?  Do any of these programs sound like they actually give a hoot about Mom?

  • RANDALL D. TURNER, Ph.D. (LinkedIn):  He is from Pennsylvania.  This is a MICHIGAN group, right, but – through these nonprofits, the system is nationalized.   Look at the background and notice a close connection to another major fatherhood initiative (involving a father accused of molesting, who went to jail for it, and the Federal Gov’t FRONTED this couple for THe Ridge Project!).  This is the entire linked in page (for the most part), I think it’s self-explanatory:  A man specializing in training for sex-offenders is presenting at a Michigan Fatherhood Coalition (“Involved Dads have better outcomes for children,” right) in a series giving FREE LEGAL ADVICE for men re: custody and child support.

It’s not free.  Someone paid for their time, and they are billing somewhere.

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Red Lion, Pennsylvania (York, Pennsylvania Area) 
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Randell Turner, Ph.D.’s Overview

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  • Founder & President at Rogue Intimacy.com
  • Child & Family Therapist, Specializing in Relational Issues for Men & Responsible Fatherhood at Pennsylvania Counseling Services
  • Co-Founder at Strong Families Institute
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  • LaSalle University
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Randell Turner, Ph.D.’s Summary

Randell D. Turner, Ph.D., is a Child & Family Therapist, author and speaker, creator of Rescuing the Rogue: Restoring True Relational Intimacy for Men (RogueIntimacy.com) and Co-Founder of the Strong Families Institute. As a pioneer in the Fatherhood & Men’s Movement, he has author award winning resources for Prison Fellowship, the National Center for Fathering, National Head Start, Parents as Teachers, the National Fatherhood Initiative, and Fatherhood.gov.

Within his therapy practice with Pennsylvania Counseling Services, for over 25 years Dr. Turner has specialized in two areas: working with men/fathers and children with Attention Deficient Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD), helping them and their families addressing mental and emotional health issues thus enabling them to improve child outcomes. As a father, step-father and grandfather, his overriding goal is to strengthen families so that they can flourish!

In addition to directing community based and re-entry fatherhood programming/research in 2004, Dr. Turner began developing and implementing new program/curricula for transitioning sex offenders returning from state and county prisons.

Specialties

Healthy Relational Intimacy Restoration for Men and their Families
Sexual Dependancy
Mental Health Issues and Addressing ADHD

Randell Turner, Ph.D.’s Experience

Founder & President

Rogue Intimacy.com

2004 – Present (8 years) Red Lion, PA, Dallas TX & Defiance OH

Rescuing the Rogue: Restoring True Relational Intimacy for Men and The Rogue Intimacy Curriculum for Small Groups & Events
Provides proven relationship restoration process and resources specifically designed for working with men and fathers! Drawing from a rich twenty year history of work with hurting, broken men, has resulted in developing practical life changing resources, training and support for community leaders whose mission is to restore and strengthen families.

Child & Family Therapist, Specializing in Relational Issues for Men & Responsible Fatherhood

Pennsylvania Counseling Services

Privately Held; 501-1000 employees; Mental Health Care industry

December 2003 – Present (9 years 1 month) Gettysburg & York, Pennsylvania

Child and Family Therapist for Pennsylvania Counseling Services specializing in working with men/fathers including development of a cutting edge and highly successful Sex Offender Re-entry and Treatment programming.

Mental health expertise also includes treatment of Attention Deficient Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD) children and their families addressing mental and emotional health issues thus enabling them to improve child outcomes.

Background also includes conducting relevant research, authoring resources designed for developing training and Head Start program parent/teacher educational resources to address children who struggle social problems, prevention of child abuse and neglect, and to enhance mental and emotional health for families.

Co-Founder

Strong Families Institute

June 1998 – Present (14 years 7 months) Dallas, Texas & Red Lion, Pennsylvania

Dr. Turner is co- founder and president of the Strong Families Institute a consulting organization dedicated to improving child outcomes through engaged, committed and involved fathers. His expertise includes research and development of curricula, for community-based, school-based teen father, health/safety childcare for new/expecting fathers, military and incarcerated fatherhood programs. Dr. Turner served as consultant to Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge’s Fatherhood Initiative developing, promoting and training community-based, prison and school based programs for fathers and their families. Additionally, Dr. Turner initiated and consulted with Pennsylvania State University, Center for Organizational Research and Evaluation and the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections which conducted research including, process and outcomes evaluations on incarcerated fatherhood programs in the state of Pennsylvania.

Dr. Turner initiated one of the first state-wide prisoner re-entry programs with the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections, by developing the Helping Offenders Parent Effectively, (H.O.P.E.) a prison to community re-entry and transition program, community resources, training and strategies to prepare incarcerated parents for prisoner reentry. Dr. Turner co-authored an award winning column given by the Evangelical Press Association for Prison Fellowship, a nonprofit ministry, Inside Edition a faith-based newsletter addressing incarcerated fatherhood issues. Since 2004, Dr. Turner has been developing and implementing new program/curricula for transitioning sex offenders returning from state and county prisons.

Randell Turner, Ph.D.’s Education

LaSalle University

Ph.D.Counseling Psychology

1992 – 1998

Don’t forget to check out his websites (first link is broken, though)

Randell Turner, Ph.D.’s Additional Information

Websites:
Honors and Awards:

At the 17th Annual Communicator Award, with ICF International received Award of Distinction for Spotlight on Dads resources written for the National Responsible Fatherhood Clearinghouse

Dr. Turner co-authored an award winning column given by the Evangelical Press Association for Prison Fellowship, a nonprofit ministry, Inside Edition a faith-based newsletter addressing incarcerated fatherhood issues.


2nd website is “Strong Families Institute” (probably a series of seminars, webinars, or other trainings — translation, SALES) to make a simply for-profit LLC sound better:

(the logo is also a link).  Apparently links to Forth Worth, Texas…

StrongFathers

Organizations routinely contract with Strong Fathers to have us train their staff in ways to better involve fathers within their educational organization. Throughconferencesstaff trainings, and curriculum development Strong Fathers continues to be a leader in father involvement innovations that are having an impact on men and their children.

I told you.  Before too much of this, I think some of us are starting to regurgitate at the business model which, regardless of the cute and sound-byte names, spiffy logos, etc. — are seeing that, at the bottom line, it’s an easy sales, federally incentivized, captive audiences (whether schools, or prisons) and no actual results are required to obtain more funding.  Just warm bodies.

Don’t forget to actually look at the (LONG) list of people and organizations around the nation who have been buying this stuff.  It’s thus a win/win for the consumers, marketing to schools….

Dr. Turner got his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology (note the years were right around the time of welfare reform 1996 which would be freeing up federal grants to the states to divert Title IV money into parent counseling, etc.) and a Catholic University. He’s from Pennsylvania which has been making remarkably consistent NEGATIVE news these days around its handling of children — Jerry Sandusky (penn state scandal), before that “Kids for Cash” (Luzerne County, PA, two judges involved in RICO) and nearby Lackawanna County courthouse was raided by the FBI over allegations of financial misdeeds (I was very involved with that for a while, and it seems to me some of the personnel involved were also LaSalle grads, but I could be wrong).  Isn’t that NICE that Dr. Turner is operating in Michigan too?

  1. La Salle University :: Philadelphia, PA

    www.lasalle.edu/

    A four-year Catholic institution in Philadelphia, PA, operated by the Christian Brothers.

    Score: 19 / 30 – 29 Google reviews

We have a serious problem with the religious communities heading into prisons, psychology, fatherhood programming (churches by and large ARE “fatherhood programming” per se, many of them)…

Here’s “MHCC 2012″ MENTAL HEALTH IN CORRECTIONS CONFERENCE being held at the Forest Institute in Springfield, MO.  I think I blogged this school, however it was private, founded in 1979 and founded BY psychologists.  Basically this is professional promotions on the conference route.  Dr. Turner is a presenter.  I note that his Rogue Intimacy website links are all blanks.  I think this conference should be looked at:

particularly “The Ridge Project” and involvement of Ron and Catherine Tijerina.”

The Center for Innovation & Community Health

The Mental Health in Corrections Conference is presented by Forest Institute, a private not-for-profit institution of higher education dedicated to provid- ing high-quality professional education and community service with courage and compassion.

Founded in 1979, Forest was created by practicing psychologists who understood that the best way to learn is to practice. Active integration with its home community of Springfield, Missouri, combined with solid theory, out- standing experts, and an elevated individual focus allows Forest to offer one of the most student-oriented and practice-based psychology programs in the nation.

Forest offers a variety of programs including a Doctor of Psychology in Clinical Psychology (PsyD), Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology (MACL), Master of Arts in Marriage and Family Therapy (MAMFT), Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology (MACP), and Master of Science in Applied Behavior Analysis (MSABA). This year Forest added a new location in St. Louis, Missouri, where the MACL and MSABA programs are offered.

From this conference (just last March):

Workshop 302:

Breaking Barriers to Family Reunification – Part 1- Ron and Catherine Tijerina,
Co-founders, The RIDGE Project, Inc.

This workshop will assist participants in identifying the underlying cultural barriers to service delivery among incarcerated/formerly incarcerated fathers and their families. This workshop will give par- ticipants insight into the culture, help them identify cultural barriers and find innovative ways to address/overcome those barriers.

Here’s Dr. Turner’s workshop at this conference, at least one of them I saw:

Afraid to Truly Love – Addressing 502 Relationship Challenges in Abused,

Neglected and Fatherless Children Who are Now Adults – Randell Turner, PhD, Senior Associate &

Child & Family Therapist, ICF International, Fairfax, VA

Fear of abandonment is a real and growing mental health concern of abused and fatherless children in America. Adult men and women who grew up in abusive and/or fatherless households struggle in their relationships and marriages due to the inner wounds and trapped emotions caused by unresolved fear of aban- donment issues. In this workshop we will discuss fear of abandonment issues in children and adults; what causes it, the effects on current relationships and how these issues can/need to be addressed in community-based reentry programs today.

These are valid topics.  I just need to point out that some homes are legitimately fatherless because those Dads were abusive.  These households have (or had in prior years to this fatherhood movement) at least one benefit to them — at least that father would not be abusing the mother in front of the kids, or the kids themselves in the home — because he wasn’t in the home.  There are times where such men should be put out.  These programs exist to make sure that the protection of children from such household, long-term, doesn’t actually happen.  This problem is built into the family court system, and intrinsic to it. I think.

Here’s Dr. Turner again on the counseling circuit (it doesn’t show his workshop was full, but it was listed) in a National Christian Counseling Conference (this past Sept., doesn’t even say in what state)

That link doesn’t allow you to find out more without registering…. (or “with spouse”)…

National Christian Counseling Conference

I tried to look at the core URL which was “AACC.net” with the same results, and THIS logo:

World Conference - Our Time is Now

It’s the “American Association of Christian Counselors”:

The logo is II Corinthians 1:3-4

STATEMENT (predictably):

As an organization of dedicated counseling professionals, the AACC believes:

  • In one God, creator and sustainer of all things, infinitely perfect and eternally co-existing in three persons – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
  • The Scriptures, both the Old and New Testaments, are the inspired and trustworthy Word of God, the complete revelation of His will for the salvation of human beings, and the final authority for all matters about which it speaks.
  • That human nature derives from two historical persons, male and female, created in God’s image. They were created perfect, but they sinned, plunging themselves and all human beings into sin, guilt, suffering, and death.
  • That the substitutionary death of Jesus Christ and His bodily resurrection provide the only grounds for justification, forgiveness, and salvation for all who believe, and only those who trust in Him alone are born of the Holy Spirit, true members of the Church, and will spend eternity with Christ.
  • That the Holy Spirit is the agent of regeneration and renewal for believers in Christ, that He makes the presence of Jesus Christ real in believers, and that He comforts, guides, convicts, and enables believers to live in ways that honor Him.
  • That ministry to persons also acknowledges the complexity of humans as physical, psychological, social, and

(the conference material /statement literally does just drop off mid-sentence just like that.  I guess when it gets to what they believe about acknowledging the complexity of “humans”, they’re less concerned to make the message clear.  Perhaps if some of the other banners and flashing lights on the site were smaller, there might be room to state if there are any professional ethics involved here, such as not using your clients as potential recruits to your theology, or having sex with them…..)

(FYI this is at the Opryland Hotel). NOTICE THE TIMING:  There are ABOUT 56 Pre-conference Institutes scheduled on “WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 2011”

Browsing them, one sees many which would be overtly marriage grantee-related (i recognize several names), and this one, which is an insult to the intelligence:

Domestic Violence: The Church as a Safe Harbor, Agent of Restoration, Foundation of Healing and Equipper of New Beginnings
Barry Lord, Psy.D. and Ramona Garretson, Psy.D.

and
A Practical Overview of Psychopharmacology: From Theory to Practice
Michael Lyles, M.D.

I looked up another presenter, Ken Nichols, Ph.D. (google) and ran across a very long (very fundamentalist) list of presenters, including two known marriage grantees (the Parrotts) topped by this bio of “Archibald Hart, Ph.D.” (the Fuller seminary connection).   All of this is part of the ‘UNIVERSITY OF LIGHT.”    While I feel, literally ill, seeing this I still recommend people look and comprehend:  There are religious groups, openly recruiting, heading in droves to the field of psychology AND psychopharmacology and, like Catholicism, they want to maintain “unity in Christian Counseling”:  This is the “international” of which AACC is the “national”…

LIGHT UNIVERSITY FACULTY”  (Obviously designed for people who have short attention spans and need BIG print and photos…..):

Archibald Hart, Ph.D.

Archibald Hart, Ph.D.

Archibald Hart is well-known for his ministry to churches through psychological training, education, and consultation. A former dean of the School of Psychology at Fuller Theological Seminary, he is board certified in psychopharmacology and was honored by the American Association of Christian Counselors with their “Caregivers Award” in 1997.

Archibald Hart, Ph.D., M.Sc.,B.Sc., University of South Africa; M.Sc., Ph.D., University of Natal; Licensed Psychologist; Professor & Former Dean of the School of Psychology, Fuller Graduate School of Theology; Certified Biofeedback Practitioner; Board Certified Diplomate Fellow in Psychopharmacology.

At any rate there is often strong overlap between fatherhood and religious groups (possibly not news to us Moms), and apparently the Randell Turner, Ph.D. of the Michigan group is on this conservative (if not cultic) Christian conference circuit as well.  They have the ANSWERS (from the Triune God) and just want to help your marriage, sex life, parenting, marriage prep, survival of trauma, and addiction matters.

Les Parrott III, Ph.D., B.A.

Ph.D., B.A., Olivet Nazarene University; M.A., Fuller Theological Seminary; Ph.D., Fuller Graduate School of Psychology; Licensed Psychologist; Associate Professor of Psychology & Co-Director of the Center for Relationship Development at Seattle Pacific University  (something the Parrotts appear to have set up for their conferencing convenience…).

Les Parrott III, Ph.D., B.A.


Leslie Parrott, Ed.D.

Leslie Parrott, Ed.D.

Leslie Parrott, Ed.D., Co-Director, Center for Relationship Development at Seattle Pacific University; private practice in marriage and family therapy; Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist; best-selling author, national speaker, seminar leader, and Co-Editor of the NIV Marriage Devotional Bible; Seattle, WA.

(Dr. Parrott comes from a family that helped run Olivet Nazarene, as I recall (or, it was her husband).
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
 From “liberty University” (similar listing of counselors) I want to point out the second one:

Addiction Counseling Faculty (Liberty University on-line).

Daniel Amen, M.D., is director and founder of The Amen Clinic for Behavioral Medicine. His private practice specializes in child, adolescent, and adult behavioral medicine and nuclear brain imaging. He is board-certified in general psychiatry and child psychiatry. He has authored 15 books, including Healing ADD: The Breakthrough Program That Allows You to See and Heal the Six Types of Attention Deficit Disorder and Change Your Brain, Change Your Life, as well as many professional publications.

John Baker, M.B.A., is the founder of Celebrate Recovery, a ministry born out of the heart of Saddleback Church. Over the last 18 years, nearly 10,500 individuals have gone through this Christ centered recovery program at Saddleback. The Celebrate Recovery program is now being used in thousands of churches nationwide.

Well, it’s nice to know that another megachurch whose leader “Rick Warren” and his “The Purpose-Driven Life” has made MY headlines for covering up domestic violence, and for “how many trademarked programs can I, personally file with the USPTO.gov while hiding this as “ministry” under my mega church, which just recently benefitted from a major landgift to a charitable anthropologist on the Forbes List.”
Celebrate Recovery (I’ve been to some) is modeled after I guess “Alcoholics Anonymous” only even more people ALLEGEDLY wanting to recover from even more addictions, can, under a church umbrella, keep the reporting ‘in-house’?? while holding meetings in which men and women with:  drug, alcohol, sexual abuse, battering, domestic violence (target) and incest — etc.  Can all break out into separate workshops, and then pull it together in praise and worship (??) afterwards.
To put this bluntly without actually printing my name on this blog — it’s a hookup joint where men know they can go find injured women and children (some of this injury having occurred precisely because faith groups covered it up when they reported to start with) and find wife #2 to give them respectability and a sense of stability when they go to court to get the kids away from that former bitch who reported them.
It works, too, which is rather distressing from a certain point of view.
Here’s a male POV comparing Promise Keepers (a men’s ministry, and marketing component) with Celebrate Recovery (also with its marketing component), obviously attracting similar type customers — like this one:
Notice he mentions:  “roller coaster,” jumping on the bandwagon, buying the “stuff” and that throughout this, it’s focused on himself.  There’s still no mention of its impact on others in his life, at least in this analysis.  (Date 2009).

WEDNESDAY, MAY 27, 2009

Celebrate Recovery

In the past, I’ve mentioned Celebrate Recovery on this blog. It is a ministry invented at SaddlebackChurch, where the term “Purpose Driven” was coined by Pastor Rick Warren. I’ve been both a fan and a critic of Celebrate Recovery. 

Recent experiences with my own church and experiences I’ve had visiting some other churches have caused me to re-examine my thinking on the subject of Celebrate Recovery. If I’m totally honest with myself (a concept Celebrate Recovery would encourage), I have to admit that my relationship with this ministry has been a bit like a roller coaster. 

I remember years ago, when I was involved in men’s ministry. Promise Keepers, a ministry to men, was big at the time. I jumped on the Promise Keepers bandwagon. I took men to their conferences. I even took 22 men to their “Million Man March” on the Mall in Washington, DC. They were incredible experiences. And of course I bought the Promise Keepers music CD’s, t-shirts and coffee mugs. Today, Promise Keepers is pretty much not a part of my thinking. It’s off the radar. 

Looking back on my relationship with Celebrate Recovery, I see some similarities to how I related to Promise Keepers. To be sure, both ministries had a positive impact in my spiritual growth. To be fair, Celebrate Recovery has had a much stronger impact – with longer lasting results. But I see that I jumped on the CR bandwagon, buying their CD’s, attending their conferences, even getting the t-shirts and coffee mugs. I was a “fan.” That first cycle lasted a good couple of years. 

And then it happened. Someone in Celebrate Recovery wounded me. So I recoiled. I got hurt. I got disappointed. I began to question whether CR was really an impactfulministry or a fad. I compared it to Promise Keepers, and concluded that it lacked strategy and leadership. In time, the wounds would heal and I would again be drawn back to Celebrate Recovery. Over about six years now, I’ve been through at least a couple of those cycles. At one point, I saw myself as the wise critic – able to see the benefits, but even more qualified to evaluate the weaknesses.

It would be accurate to say that Celebrate Recovery has a flawed distribution model. Saddleback has done a dismal job of moving this ministry out into the local churches. Very few churches actually do it well. In fact, I’d say that most of the CR churches in North Texas have a mediocre Celebrate Recovery ministry at best. It’s open to interpretation and application. Of course leadership and discipline seem to make the difference in whether a church gets an excellent CR ministry or not. And I thought it was that simple.

But God has recently shown me a couple of things. First, Christianity in general has a flawed distribution model. Too much of it is open to interpretation and application. Of course leadership and discipline seem to make the difference between a good church and an ineffective church. 

I see that Jesus told His disciples not to worry too much about that. “If they’re not against us, then they are for us.” I believe that was basically what He said. I think He meant that any brand of Jesus that is based on truth is better than no Jesus at all. I think He meant that is true even if a particular brand of Jesus (i.e., denomination) doesn’t meet our expectations or our human standards. I’m understanding that this is probably true of Celebrate Recovery as well.

Second, I suspect God is showing me Celebrate Recovery, or at least its principles, have become part of my “spiritual DNA.” In other words, they have become so ingrained in my thinking that I cannot leave them behind. I was asked to share my testimony last week at a church which has Celebrate Recovery. I had shared it at this particular church before, and they were interested in an update. So I sat down to write it out. Of course I prayed before I began writing. I was surprised by what I ended up writing.

God led me to write out the eight (8) principles of Celebrate Recovery, and talk about their practicalapplication in my own life. If you’re not familiar with this ministry or its principles, they are based on Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount, found in the 5th chapter of Matthew in the New Testament. In this sermon, Jesus gave us His principles for the effective Christian life. SaddlebackChurch wrote the eight principles of Celebrate Recovery from them – helping to put them in a practical, easy-to-understand context. 

I was fascinated by how my own story unfolded when I wrote it this way. Many of the things I wrote I’d said before. I’d just never said them together. When they were assembled together, they seemed to say something significant. Not something significant about me, but about God’s work in me. You see, as I’ve participated in Celebrate Recovery over the years, and worked its principles, God has changed me. The irony is that He has changed me more than even I realized. 

If you’re not familiar with Celebrate Recovery, I encourage you to check it out. It is often considered a twelve-step program, and I’ve heard it called “AA with Jesus on it.” Neither is a fair analogy. It is probably the most powerful, most effective discipleship tool I’ve ever seen. Jesus commanded us to “go and make disciples.” Most of us don’t have a clue what that looks like in practical application. I’m more convinced now than ever that Celebrate Recovery puts that into perfect practical application. It’s not about recovery. It’s about growing up in Christ. 

Most of us have lives that we aren’t satisfied with. And we wonder why. The fact of the matter is that Jesus can change all that. We just have to learn to work with Hisrhythm to accomplish it. And Celebrate Recovery teaches that. I’m still learning what Celebrate Recovery is all about. The enormous irony here is that I’m probably as knowledgeable as any about this particular ministry. But at the same time, I am overwhelmed by my own ignorance about this ministry. But God continues to unfold the story, revealing more to me each day. 

I suspect my relationship with Celebrate Recovery is about to change again. But this time it looks like the roller coaster ride is over. Perhaps I will stop dating the ministry and put my perspectives in God’s hands once and for all. Stay tuned, and I’ll be sure to share with you as the story unfolds!

Written by Let's Get Honest

June 6, 2013 at 7:41 pm

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  1. The above post was one wild ride for me! The top of my head blew off I think. Too many dots were connected and directly with my case along with the multiple people involved. One very good friend who I met through commenting on an article who had been battling an illegal custody switch which she managed to regain custody after 4 years of non-stop battling only to have the state of Michigan erase the fathers child support arrearage only to fraudulently charge the mother child support arrearages on an order that never existed! 12 years later and the child now an adult and the mother is still having retirement garnished from her early leave from a job due to her new found disabilities compliments of the family court system of Michigan. On top of that, my case involves religious BS from an unordained senior pastor of home a church claiming to have attended Fuller Theological Seminary or whatever and he had a direct play in the attempt to take custody from me of my daughter who I raised for over a decade and switch to a father on that prison release program who obtained a Pepperdine Atty. compliments of HOPE I bet. It’s all so intertwined that I have short circuited for the moment. All players who I have struggled to gain help from while also attempting to help, are linked as much as this Penn state guy is. It’s gross! All I know is thanks to your blogging I have no doubt this battle was as big as it felt and I see no end in sight. God help our children! (At least I know I know put a stick in the spokes of ONE of the players. Shall I name the name of the psychologist who had his license revoked siting my very case?……………

    stillhere

    June 7, 2013 at 12:20 am

  2. I hope I can get this out cohesively.

    I feel very certain:

    “If you’re not familiar with Celebrate Recovery, I encourage you to check it out. It is often considered a twelve-step program, and I’ve heard it called “AA with Jesus on it.” Neither is a fair analogy. It is probably the most powerful, most effective discipleship tool I’ve ever seen. Jesus commanded us to “go and make disciples.” Most of us don’t have a clue what that looks like in practical application. I’m more convinced now than ever that Celebrate Recovery puts that into perfect practical application. It’s not about recovery. It’s about growing up in Christ.”

    The above quote from your blog post was never meant to be interpreted to “go and make disciples” by means of CPS stealing children from good homes from false allegations never substantiated to adopt out to Christian families away from single (sinning) mothers was quite what the Bible had in mind. I also feel certain victim harvesting and let’s not forget that “egg” harvesting was quite the plan either. Stealing children from happy loving homes to be placed in a criminals care who has just been released from prison with Bible in tow was not what Jesus would have in mind. Now we see WAY too many connections with these adoptions and this faith based federally funded scam where you tithe and you give at the office through your taxes as your tax dollars are now going directly to these faith based operations BUSINESSES (any faith and all faiths even satan worship or there’s the new age place in AZ shut down where the goddesses tax exempt religious status got found out to be the brothel that it was but that one may be in litigation still). I don’t believe there is anywhere in the Bible where RICH Christians are to run down the less fortunate and take their children to indoctrinate them to their beliefs along with growing their own even from the egg! I DON’T THINK THAT’S WHAT THE BIBLE HAD IN MIND.

    If any of these players involved in this money scheme has a heart or soul they better be waking and paying attention. There will not be forgiveness for these sins under ANY interpretation of any WORD. Children are suffering and loving protective mothers and fathers are suffering. They are crying out for help and have endlessly begged blogged testified and stated all that they know while this scheme is going on right under their noses. Sickening Gut wrenching stuff! I know of too many mothers and children that have been KILLED just in the past 4 years!

    Had to rant. No offense intended. The multi-felon criminal who tried to gain custody of my child through perjured notarized affidavits with a crooked pastor in his pocket tried to tell me “it’s a God thing”. I said, “oh no this is NOT God.” I was later threatened by these same privileged Christians (false) that I didn’t know how big this is and I better not show up to a hearing about the question of said Christian Counselors psychology license. He had his license REVOKED and I DID SHOW UP.

    stillhere

    June 7, 2013 at 12:56 am

  3. Putting this info on my own post after, reviewing this “Michigan Domestic Violence and Treatment Board” situation (see post, it’s fairly near the top). I looked at it again, current from the web and found this membership, with again the same description: Don’t forget to READ AND COMPREHEND THESE DESCRIPTIONS>

    The word “board” in the nonprofit contexts means, who’ runninig it, as in board of directors, responsible for making policy and allocating funding. You read their 990 and you see who’s on the board that year.

    For example, let me look up on nonprofit (as opposed to part of gov’t) DV group in MIchigan:

    “”Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and Treatment Board

    he Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Prevention and Treatment Board (MDSVPTB) was established within the Michigan Family Independence Agency (now known as the Department of Human Services) in 1978 by state legislation that created a Governor-appointed Board responsible for focusing state activity on domestic violence. The Board administers state and federal funding for domestic violence shelters and advocacy services, develops and recommends policy, and develops and provides technical assistance and training.

    The seven-member Board represents a cross-section of professions concerned with the crime of domestic violence. Members are appointed by the Governor with the advice and consent of the Senate. Staff provided by the Department of Human Services assists the Board in carrying out their legislative charge.

    Current Michigan Domestic and Sexual Violence Board Members….”

    http://www.a2gov.org/SERVICES/OTHERSERVICES/15D/Pages/Judiciary.aspx

    [[I am epxeriencing “”keyboarding” which appears to be a form of hhacking.. It started after II clicked oon the abovve ddescription of a judgee on the abbove Board. Please notte: tthese boards combine DHS and judges and tthe HOn. Eliizateh Pollardd Hines (filter for dduplicate letters and misssed lletters — see link) is clearly an activiist judge . TTheree are asppecdts pparticular to Michhigan which interaact. I’ll discuss when the kkeyboard is back to normal.

    Let's Get Honest

    June 8, 2013 at 5:00 pm

  4. Elizabeth Pollard Hines, Chief Judge

    Elizabeth Pollard Hines was elected to the 15th Judicial District Court bench in 1992.  She was appointed by the Michigan Supreme Court as Chief Judge and is the former Presiding Judge of the District Court Division of the Washtenaw County Trial Court ~~>~>~>~when all courts in the county were unified.  She presides over traffic and criminal cases including a specialized domestic violence docket.<<~<<~<~<~~ 

    Judge Hines helped create and launch "Street Outreach Court", a community project of the Washtenaw County criminal justice system and advocates for the homeless.

    Judge Hines received her Bachelors of Art, with honor, from the University of Michigan in 1974, and her Juris Doctor degree from the University of Michigan College of Law in 1977. 

    In 1987, Judge Hines was appointed first Chair of Ann Arbor's Domestic Violence Coordinating Board.  She represented her colleagues on the Executive Committee managing a Judicial Oversight Demonstration Initiative (JODI) sponsored by the U.S. Department of Justice Office on Violence Against Women from 1999 to 2004, one of three sites in the country selected to see what works best in cases of domestic violence. 

    She helps train new judges on domestic violence through the Michigan Judicial Institute.  She was appointed to serve on the Governor's Task Force on Children's Justice*** and the Governor's Task Force on Batterer Intervention Standards. ….

    [[[BBISSCC-MI et aal.]]]

    Let's Lookk:
    [[[**rread!: http://www.michigan.gov/gtfcan ffunded undder CAPTAA and under VAWA;; see bottom of sscreen///
    ""This web-site is funded by a federal Children's Justice Act grant to the Governor's Task Force on Children's Justice administered through the Michigan Department of Human Services, under the Child Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act, Administration of Children and Families, Department of Health and Human Services, CFDA 93.643, being section 107(a), (b), (c), (d), (e), and (f) as amended (42 USC 5101 et seq.); and the Victims of Crime Act of 1984, as amended (42 USC 10601""

    Under RResoources, I see 3 protocolss: OONe is "Muhcnnhaausen's by prroxy..
    aa..kk.aa MMoms, kisss your kids goodbye

    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dhs/DHS_PUB_0017_200457_7.pdf
    DDonald Duqquette Chair, and aauthor with one other. YYou need to know who MMr. Duqquette is, also MMarvin Ventrell, NAACC and AFCC.

    ]]].

    She was appointed by the Michigan Supreme Court to the Committee on the Rules of Criminal Procedure to review rules of criminal procedure used by all Michigan courts.  She currently serves on the State Planning Body, addressing legal services in Michigan, was a member of the Access to Justice Committee of the Michigan State Bar's Judicial Crossroads Task Force, and was appointed by the Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court to serve on the SOS (Solutions on Self-Help) Task Force, looking for ways to better accommodate self-represented litigants.  She is a member of the National Domestic Violence Court Technical Assistance Consultancy Team for the Center for Court Innovation and the National Center for State Court's Advisory Committee for it's Problem-Solving Justice Toolkit.

    Elected to the Board of Governor's of the American Judges Association (AJA), Judge Hines is currently Co-Chair fo the AJA Domestic Violence Committee, past Chair of the AJA Access to Justice Committee, and a member of the AJA Executive Committee.  She is active in her community and has received numerous awards including the "Patriot Award" from the Washtenaw County Bar Association, and the "2008 Distinguished Service Award" from the National Center for State Courts.  In 2011, she was elected to serve on the Board of Directors of the National Center for State Courts.  In August of 2011, she was awarded the first annual "Judicial Excellence Award" by the Michigan District Judges Association. 

    Judge Hines is a member of the State Bar Association, the Washtenaw County Bar Association, the Women Lawyers Association of Michigan, the American Judges Association, and the Michigan District Judges Association.   

    Let's Get Honest

    June 8, 2013 at 5:18 pm


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