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Mystic Emotions, Spirituality, Fables, Bibles — (briefly)

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(Dec. 25th, and ff.)

I have heard today (Christmas Day) from a few people who are absent contact with their kids or in this fight (I am the former today and most holidays).

It is very cold and rainy here, and I am not in a position to assemble a proper post, but for the sake of the day, these passages are from one of my blogs, JesusLordChrist:

I started that blog to honor and speak about the conflict between spirituality (as I experience it, and understand its connection with the written/spoken Bible) and what I see and experienced with the visible institutions, and religions loosely calling themselves “churches” or “Christianity,” and the behaviors promoted and encouraged among those who attend and support. Over the years I have come to the  conclusion that, much as I appreciate the artistic endeavors over the centuries, and who wouldn’t like a nice sense of community — those accoutrements are not worth hanging around places which are both demeaning to women as a whole, AND dangerous to them, plus to children as well.

Add to this the collaboration with abusive and many times fraudulent government programs as I have been documenting herein, and they are just not worth it.  Some are reactionary against women having the vote; and if one balances the soup kitchens and charitable work they do, with the damages, who would weigh it in the balances?  Then, some are simply cults….

To me, understanding the language and its expression is key.

Regarding the next passage, which is held to be a prophesy of the Messiah, a.k.a. to be Jesus, I can understand how people would want these qualities in a leader.


And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears

But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked

And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.” (Isaiah 11:1-5)

 
(For its context: search tools.

http://bible.cc too many crappy versions, but also interlinear etc.
http://blueletterbible.org easier to navigate, fewer options?)

[much of this segment added 12/26, which is now a wet but sunlit day in my area.  Yesterday was nasty as to weather; a good place to stay in your home — which too many people don’t have; or with your family for some social/emotional warmth — which plenty more don’t have either. ]

Unfortunately these days, we do not have those qualities in our leaders, and will be needing to acquire them ourselves.  ….

We could all use a lot more of these qualities in 2013.  Isaiah prophesied that these came from the “spirit of the Lord,” right:

wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Oh, you don’t like that last one, perhaps?  Would you prefer wisdom and understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, etc. — just without that LORD part?
And yet the scriptures really do say, the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and that the fool says in his heart, “there is no God.”  In James, believers are coached to quit backpatting themselves because they actually believe in God with this phrase:
 in James 2 in an extended (harrangue) on not having “respect of persons,” faith & works, etc.  in general, hypocrisy:

14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Back to Isaiah:  It was prophesied that this Branch out of a root of Jesse (Jesse being in the line of David) would have the spirit of the Lord upon him, which was exactly what Jesus declared was the situation in Luke 4:18 in announcing his ministry:  “The spirit of the Lord is upon me, for he hath anointed me to preach deliverance to the captives,….” (etc.)  It was understood that those qualities were spiritual qualities and they came from the LORD.  Isaiah 11, as above:

And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears

But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth

To the extent there are social communications, sooner or later, there are going to be what we call “judges” or a council of elders; when there are disputes, someone has to settle them.   What better qualities can one have than understanding, not being swayed by appearances, the ability to tell hearsay from truth, and having seen and heard, know where righteousness actually is in any situation!
Who, longing to see some family members, or to have ongoing destructions in their lives (or familys’ lives) stopped, lacking the ability and force to do so personally — would not want an honest, ethical judge whose word would speak power into the situation and rectify it?
But with no reproof, no consequences, there’s not really judgment.  So no one wants to really take responsibility for this part?

“and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked”

So,  maybe the wicked can be reformed, transformed, or coached into being nice people, so no one will really stand up to them?  As someone who has lived many years with no one even speaking up against (certain activities that are socially — supposedly — condemned, indeed, criminal), I learned that my life, safety, and literally the law itself — were so context-specific as to be meaningless; and definitely not mine-only.  They were there, actually for a semblance of obedience (as are churches today, and all their moral code) for those who feel like obeying them.  It’s basically there for decoration and can be taken down periodically and at will as needed.
Moreover, (while I’m here) is there any question that “rod of his mouth” and “with the breath of his slips shall he slay,” — that this is figurative, dramatic speech, but has an element of reality (truth) to it when a leader speaks whose utterances are literally carried out?  If so, then why can’t the average Christian who carries this book around in a dog-eared version, actually understand when it’s intended to be figurative,  when literal?

Unfortunately these days, we do not have those qualities in our leaders, and will be needing to acquire them ourselves.  ….

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December 25, 2012 at 5:03 pm

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