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California ‘Open Carry’ Ban passed Senate…and passing the Assembly Public Safety Committee: Some Domestic Violence Questions (Publ. Sept. 10, 2011, Format-only update Aug. 10, 2019)

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California ‘Open Carry’ Ban passed Senate…and passing the Assembly Public Safety Committee: Some Domestic Violence Questions (Publ. Sept. 10, 2011, Format-only update Aug. 10, 2019)  short-link ends “-QY,” originally about 15,200 words**; added remarks about 800 more.  Some broken image links removed, etc.

**I see that much of the length is how long the quotes are, and many articles quoted.  My actual comments aren’t that long.  

**2019 (Extended) UPDATE REMARKS:

Why I’m updating such an early post: It came up in a search result for a recent post. In Sept. 2011, I had no idea I’d still be posting eight years later. Early post sometimes lack the “Read-More” link, which makes for more tedious viewing of any search results they show up in. They also don’t have a pleasant background color. By now I have fairly standard formats (page-width, borders, and the practice of including a full post title with visible “short-link” ending and post length) (and date published nearby if not in the actual title), and so have applied it here.


My blogging is more organizations/operations-financed now, however if you read this post, you’ll see I’d already identified both names, practices, and interactions among certain domestic violence organizations, still in power — and still federally-funded, which has a lot to do with WHY.

I also see from a brief review that it references a DV fatality with the last name “Samaan.” ALL such fatalities are dramatic, but this one, as I recall (it should be checked), involved someone (the mother) working for the state Attorney General’s office — and she couldn’t even save her own; there apparently being some built-in-delay on kidnapping or Amber alerts when it’s a parent involved.  Too late to save lives…  If I also recall, from eight years ago looking up individuals involved, his side of the family had relatives involved as custody evaluators or in some way with psychological services in the family courts.  However the “SAMAAN” case is incidental to this post, not its focus.

In 2019, recently, there have been mass shootings in (at least) three U.S. cities.  I referenced this in an August recent post (“A Health System Flush with Cash” as I recall), in the context:  There is always drama and headlines; let us, however remember to focus on ongoing drivers of public policy (case in point, the tobacco tax revenues merging into welfare reform revenues, both aimed, naturally at lifelong behavioral modification and particularly (as to at least California) Early Childhood initiatives, i.e., “First 5” commissions & related nonprofits.  I also looked at what is now “Truth Initiative Foundation” (previously, “American Legacy Foundation.”

A passing reference to my previous research on specific gun control (or “gun safety”) networks came up in that context; I posted a link to an earlier post and in the context, this one came up also.  I then referenced more recent set of nonprofits (formed 2007ff and funded by one of the worlds, or at least the U.S.’s wealthiest men, former Mayor Bloomberg) as it had come up in the domestic violence context, again, in an article circulated on Twitter.

Therefore nothing should be “read into” my cleaning up this post other than, I’m cleaning up an early post in the sense of adding the usual html  to produce borders, title up front, and an easy-to-copy title with short-link. I do, however, have standing as having dealt personally with guns and knives in the home (and my ex’s then-obsession with collecting both of them and using them in intimidating ways, particularly when I’d engaged in some known socially supportive, positive connection outside the home.  The act of engaging in socially supportive, positive connections outside the home, even ones he’d personally ordered me to attend (in a few key incidents) itself seemed to provoke dangerous situations at home.

I am MANY years outside of co-habiting with this individual; he is not bothering me any more, despite two (now grown) children in common.  The major post-DV damage was definitely accomplished through the family courts in a way it just could not have been, long before.  While my ex was a very “strange bird” (and dangerous to live with), in fact, it was my family’s reaction to my expelling a batterer which INITIALLY fueled the family court fiascoes (battles) that followed.  My point in all this blogging includes that, while these venues exist, we do not have a safe place to flee, and many times may not be allowed to, for “social science” reasons anyhow.


If anyone wonders, I do not do “concealed carry” but wouldn’t tell anyone if I had such a license.  My general solution is geographical distance and drastic reduction of communications, to this day; something not possible with minor children and co-parenting orders.

I am both luck and glad to still be alive and able to post. //LGH Aug. 10, 2019

 

I just happened to catch this in a news subtitle — it was not discussed at all.  However, a group is definitely tracking Open Carry laws nationwide:

http://opencarry.org/

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A pro-gun Internet community focused on the right to openly carry properly holstered handguns in daily American life.
“A Right Unexercised is a Right Lost”
“[G]ang members aren’t known to open carry.”
“We don’t suggest that people panic,
because there hasn’t been a problem with open-carry demonstrations in other cities.”

 

They are talking about California SB 661 and AB 144, part of which I’ve quoted below.

They write, in opposition:

Subject: Oppose AB 1144 & SB 661

Dear Assembly member [or Senator] _______:

I urge you to oppose AB 144 & SB 661.

These bills are aimed at making it difficult or impossible to open carry properly holstered handguns in California. Because California’s concealed handgun permit program allows Sheriffs and police chiefs absolute discretion in issuance of concealed carry permits, open carry is the only way for most California citizens to carry handguns in public.

If these bills pass, California gun owners will be forced to open carry rifles and shotguns in public places – something which remains legal under the bills. California residents deserve to retain their Second Amendment right to carry handguns, and proponents of these bills want to stomp our rights into the ground.

A number of people in our state are allowed to carry concealed weapons, because they have a concealed carry permit.  But not Exposed Unloaded Weapons, because it freaks too many law-abiding citizens out.    Lest we have too many freaked-out citizens (not good for business) around, California is passing another law to stop this

I respond as a domestic violence survivor who had dealt with multiple guns (not the only weapon) in the home.   It was actually the knives that frightened me more, along with the previous injuries involving neither gun nor knife.  Overall, living in fear is no way to live, period.   After years of attempting other law-abiding ways to deal with law-breaking behaviors, I sometimes look back and wonder how it might have played out had I learned to be more aggressive, and had come into life (including marriage) with the ability to handle a firearm and self-defense training.

By the end of this (ever-extending) post, you’ll read about an Open Carry advocate soccer mom, who was shot to death by her parole officer husband anyhow (they had young children and were not even separated); about how groups that are typically anti-DV laws (if not feminism) that are quite alert as to violation of civil liberties, and how the domestic violence response typically is, well, er — despite how hated it is by certain groups — still ineffective.

This topic hits close to home, which means it may NOT be my best post, but I’m putting this information out FYI, food for thought.  Nibble on some of it, and I hope digest some — if Open Carry is a misdemeanor, then how are women to stay alive and keep their kids alive when there is real — not false allegations, not trumped-up reasons (as it ALLEGEDLY happens so often in courts) — real danger to life, limb, and bystanders because of earlier poor choice of partners followed by the No Exit systems which the family custody arena truly is?

I wonder whether the father who just allegedly shot his two-year old to death, and himself, was  illegally carrying a concealed weapon.

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