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At the end of the last post on “Big Brother across the land,” I found that even men get upset with being treated like children by the government.  I quoted Carey Roberts’ 2006 article.  ….

Here he is protesting an agency I just heard about today, along with VAWA and calling illegal immigrant’s use of shelters, “scams.”  This is 2007, and you need to read it in the original to appreciate the, ah, “vigor” of the tone:

Like anyone that’s likely to be heard past one’s neighbors, this comes under a website with a logo (a Political Action Committee):

Welcome to Illegal Immigration: Americans Fighting Back

to appreciate the irony, at the end (and how I found that post) he takes aim at an agency with THIS fine logo:

I feel, in general, like taking aim at the whole dang lot of them.

ANyhow, here’s Mr. Roberts on the topic of battered women’s shelters, and the indignation that federal dollars help support them.  I think he should have a nice talk with Governor Schwarzenegger, whose idea on prisons fairly recently (FYI, the U.S. is the world’s largest per capita jailor, including even China, India, you name it) was build them in Mexico…..And it wasn’t even a joke.

The title is:Illegal Immigration News in the US

How female illegals abuse the system
Posted on Wednesday, September 12 @ 03:36:57 EDT
Topic: Illegal Immigration News in the US

(notice they still aren’t mothers, or even “women” in this, just “illegals.”)

Every year, thousands of Americans are victimized by a swindle known as the “immigrant abuse scam.” What’s amazing is this shakedown is paid for by the U.S. taxpayer under the guise of stopping domestic violence.

One of those persons is Roger Knudson, 64, of Arizona. When he discovered his wife was having an affair, he filed for divorce. Fearing the judge would learn her visa had expired and order her back to Mexico, Knudson’s wife fell into a rage and attacked him.

But the DA refused to prosecute the assault. Then the illegal went to a local woman’s shelter that provided her pro bono legal services and told her to accuse her husband of the very crime that she herself had committed. “I have spent thousands of dollars since 2002 clearing myself of the accusations,” Knudson wrote sadly.

September 12, 2007
Carey Roberts
Topics:  Illegal Immigration, immigrant abuse scam, taxpayers, domestic violence, Roger Knudson, visas, free legal services, welfare, swindle, Elizabeth Howard, Mexico, Violence Against Women Act, falsely accused, fraud, work permit, divorce, work permit application, VAWA amnesty, Center for Survivor Agency and Justice, Department of Justice

So here’s how the scam works: A woman makes an accusation of abuse. The laws define domestic violence so loosely that she doesn’t need to provide a scrap of evidence – she only needs to scream “abuse!” So the judge issues a let’s-play-it-safe order.

That restraining order becomes the gold-plated meal ticket that entitles her to preferential treatment by immigration authorities, free legal services and a generous helping of welfare services. And anyone who questions the swindle is accused of being “soft on domestic violence.”

Elizabeth Howard of Arizona recounts how the wife of her father trapped him in the bedroom and threatened to kill him. When he called for help, the police arrested both of them. As soon as she got out of jail, she marched over to the domestic violence shelter to have him kicked out of his home. Then she began to hold yard sales to sell his car and tools.

“A friend at work whose family migrated here from Mexico told me it’s common knowledge that if a woman marries a U.S. citizen and it doesn’t work out, she can claim abuse and get the resources she needs,” Howard sadly explains. “I believe the Violence Against Women Act should be called the ‘Women Get What They Want Act.'”

In two cases, the extortion tactics continue to this day, forcing my informants to protect their identities.

One woman’s close friend was falsely accused of abuse by his immigrant wife. The courtroom hearing resembled a kangaroo court more than the even-handed administration of justice: “We were not allowed to present a case, ask questions, look at the evidence that the accusing party submitted, two of our witnesses were cut off after two minutes, and the third was not allowed to testify at all,” she revealed.

“As a victim of abuse previously myself, I am sensitive to real victims of abuse. But those who commit fraud and claim abuse where none exists endanger us all,” the woman confides.

In 2001, Bob planned to marry a woman from the Caribbean. Shortly before the ceremony, she informed him she was an illegal alien. But he loved her so he went ahead with the wedding, knowing he could sponsor her for a work permit.

Then the relationship went sour and she threatened to abduct their newborn daughter if he didn’t accede to her demands. One day she surprised him with this news: “I have my baby – I don’t need you anymore!” Bob grew fearful of the intimidation tactics, so he filed for divorce and withdrew her work permit application, believing the immigration service would protect his daughter, a newborn U.S. citizen.

Turning the tables, she requested amnesty under the Violence Against Women Act, even though she didn’t produce an iota of police or medical proof of violence. This filing prohibited him from submitting any evidence of immigration fraud or even appearing in the courtroom during her hearing.

“In the end, she got everything she could have hoped for: A work permit, VAWA amnesty, $750 tax-free dollars per month, and bragging rights on her cleverness on screwing over a stupid American fool in his own stupid country,” Bob bitterly notes.

The abuse rip-off has become so accepted that its proponents openly instruct women how to fleece their boyfriends and husbands. One group instructs gold diggers to view restraining orders “as a tool for economic justice.” Simply accuse your man of violence, and you can force him to pay your attorney’s fees, medical expenses, punitive damages, use of his house and car, and much, much more. It’s really that simple!

That advice comes to us from the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Survivor Agency and Justice, which receives generous support from the U.S. taxpayer by way of the Department of Justice. The Center offers no advice to help American taxpayers deal with false accusations of domestic violence by immigrant women.

(However, such “American taxpayers ‘falsely’ accused of domestic violence are well-represented in the child support system, full of “fatherhood” promotion, the Access/visitation system, full of “fatherhood” concerns, and even the movement against “family violence,” also full of reaching out to fathers.  )

They also have plenty of advocates within the Child SUpport profession.  Take a look at this (another nice logo, prepare yourself):

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2010 NCSEA Annual Conference & Expo
“Child Support Winds of Change are Blowing”
August 9-11, 2010
Chicago, IL
Sheraton Chicago Hotel & Towers

Come join us in Chicago for NCSEA’s 2010 Annual Conference & Expo. The Windy City is the place to be August 9-11 for child and family support professionals from across the country and around the world. Find out the latest and greatest, get techniques and information to ensure your success, and network with peers and solution providers. 
Birds of a feather flock together.  Mr. Roberts, these are actions in the 111th Congress.  You can scan them for the word “fatherhood” — I already did:
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So who is the Center for Survivor Agency and Justice?  I looked them up under Guidestar (not found); they are a spinoff from PCADV (look it up).


Since its inception in the year 2000, LAPTOP has operated as a project of the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Domestic Violence. In October of 2006, LAPTOP established itself as a separate organization, with a new name: The Center for Survivor Agency and Justice

The Center for Survivor Agency and Justice is a national organization dedicated to enhancing advocacy for survivors of oppression-based intimate partner violence. We strive to meet this goal by cultivating a community of attorneys and advocates who are skilled in survivor-centered advocacy and capable of meeting the entire spectrum of civil legal assistance needs of survivors through their own advocacy and in partnership with others. The Center for Survivor Agency and Justice will continue to serve as a technical assistance provider for the network of over 200 Legal Assistance for Victims (LAV) grantees across the nation. In future years, we will expand our vision to include all advocates and to encompass all types of oppression-based interpersonal violence. We look forward to drawing upon our substantial network of grassroots advocates and national experts to forge new ground within the movement. As we take this work to the next level, we are committed to maintaining our survivor-centered focus, instilled by our movement leader and project founder, Barbara J. Hart.

Is this organization a Nonprofit 501(c)3?  A search under


(a link you should memorize, and use)….

found nothing under that name, and 117 searches under “LAPTOP” which I’m not going to wade through just now. 

For “organization” read, web presence plus Erika A. Sussman, who (from pipl search) seems like a very well educated and concerned feminist scholar, Cornell, Georgetown, etc.  I think we should listen to her debate with some conservatives from LewRockwell.com on the topic of the First Amendment…

However, the standing question is what kind of ORGANIZATION is The Center for Survivor Agency and Justice.  My gut instinct is that it is (YET) another cloud layer of clean and web-based, conference-based, information dispensing-based layer of bureaucracy through which any federal or private funding directing to, say, SURVIVORS and JUSTICE, is not likely to penetrate to ground level, where I and a lot of others like me stand.

(I am going to publish this post as I go, rather than lose its contents, so if it’s incomplete, I WILL return….)

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